Derek Draper wants - and really, really needs - your help
As you can see from this video, Derek Draper has good reason to seek new talent:
"The next phase of this masterplan in building up the Labour community in the UK is to recruit an army of talented volunteers to contribute to the site. Think b3ta.com meets HuffingtonPost. And this is where you come in, says Draper. It could some Photoshop mastery performed on the latest Tory poster campaign, or a viral that circulates ahead of Barack Obama's inauguration reminding us that David Cameron supported John McCain. Even if you were against the war, are not a member of the Labour party and don't care about politics, you'll still have something to say. If that's your bag, he wants to hear from you."
I am here to warn those who may be unaware of Mr Draper's background that he is an arrogant twit who cannot be trusted.
Even those who support Labour (or New Labour) would do well to avoid this carpet-bagger and his pathetic PR channel passing itself off as a blog.
/2p
edit - fresh background link added
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Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 11:45,
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ooh
CDC mecca for that site then
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Dances with Rabbits Back to Education i go, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 11:50,
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not with this twit
he'd be the first to rush for the moral high round and present your efforts as a Tory attack
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Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 11:54,
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'Hi, I'm climbing the greasy pole to the level where I can tell you all what to do.'
'Please draw loads of cocks with spunk flying out of them as I believe that they will help to promote me.'
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I'm a Labour member
And as such went to Labour Student's council in December... bunch of political students, an interesting bunch, but definatly have their own way about them.
Anyway, Draper gave a really great speach. Heard plenty say he was a twat before hand, but he's actually quite a cool bloke. Had his family there, his 3 year old daughter almost gave a speach at one point, very funny.
And to be fair to him, he's the first to admit to his previous dealings etc.
Ide forgive him anyway, he seems like a good laugh.
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Jorvic, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 12:12,
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Sarah Palin also gave a great speech once...
... but when the chips were down, she turned out to be a complete waste of space.
Not comparing the two as individuals, just pointing out that there's a difference between a staged speech and what you can expect from someone in a real life situation.
(Also, the capacity to find a partner and breed has little bearing on this. Tony Blair has a family. David Cameron has a family. George W. Bush has a family. Idi Amin Dada had *six* families.)
This week, for example, DD dodged an awkward question (on a site that invites comment!) and took to insulting me when I asked on what basis he had labelled my comment 'trash' and ignored it. He may be a nice person to know briefly or even personally, but as a blogger* he is full of FAIL.
(*actually, he sees himself as more of a blogmaster, by the looks of things)
And there is also scant mention of his previous dealings on the website bio:
www.labourlist.org/derek_draper
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Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 12:38,
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Can't say I ever found Palin to give a good speach, maybe she did for Republicans
What I meant to say was he was fairly candid, obviously the fact he has kids has no bearing on anything, just saying that at this event he didnt seem to have any air or graces, his kid was running about making noise, much to the horror of his wife, but he just made jokes about it lifting her up to podium to finish his speach etc. I'm just saying he made a good impression on me, and answered the questions after extremly well, Ill have a look at the links you've posted etc when ive sobered up from last night. I was actually shocked that it was the same bloke that was involved with lobbygate etc. Seem like two completly different blokes.
It would maybe do him good to try and put some of that candidness accross in his blogging? During his speach he mentioned that during his training in America he was advised to be carefull by a fellow student who'd been googling because he "shared his name with a total asshole".
Anyway ill check out more of what youve posted when ive got rid of this drunkeness/hangover
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Jorvic, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 13:04,
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appreciated
thanks
"It would maybe do him good to try and put some of that candidness accross in his blogging?"
I doubt he knows enough about blogging to realise the value this would have. (Make that would've had; it's probably too late now.)
His research into blogs appears spotty at best. He's sniffed around the weblogs of a few people who *claim* to be the best, but that's about it.
edit - You might want to add this comment of mine to your reading list. Draper appears to be faking contributions or using material without credit.
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Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 13:26,
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Thats a good comment, If thats the one he refused to answer, its a bit idiotic of him
I'm doing a module about web 2.0 and blogging etc. so I should probably learn a bit more, if not just to get involved with this project.
He mentioned this was all in the works in his speach, I think he's mainly be concerned with the right wing twunts that post comments on BBC articles etc so he wants us Labour lot to get more involved. But Labour use of thew web is quite poor in my opinion, which is shocking really given Tory attempts to use it, they're getting better but you kind of expect the spin machine to be a bit slicker than this ;)
The Labour membersnet site is piss poor hopefull this labourlist one will be better, still havn't checked it out properly yet. theres a few MPs on Facebook Hazel Blears has her son update hers sometimes, which seems fairly pointless as far as publicity etc goes, because your not going to add her as a friend unless your a Labour member really?
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Jorvic, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 13:49,
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he's ignored it so far
but it's early days
the comment I discussed above was about his use of the law firm Schillings
edit - and I should add that the 'popular' Tory bloggers have used vastly inflated traffic figures, spin and PR to earn their reputations. Comments on these 'popular' sites are also ruthlessly censored (using a variety of techniques beyond simple deletion) and they would not have survived the past few years without this. One of these people is a bankrupt drink driver who had an ill-advised dalliance with the BNP in his youth. Little wonder that he forbids all mention of his real name on his website... while campaigning for transparency in politics.
(this chap has not been mentioned by name here, because it's not my site, and he likes to throw lawyers around when he's not bragging/claiming that he's beyond the reach of libel laywers himself)
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Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 14:01,
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Had a look at that
I definatly need to learn more about this kind of thing! Definatly wrong to dismiss your concerns, as far as the 60 million people rather than 60 bloggers, that comes accross as fairly arrogant, I would hope he didn't mean it to. But i gues he wouldnt be in the business if he wasn't sure of what he was saying..
Interesting though, good /linkage ill be looking into this a bit more!
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Jorvic, Thu 15 Jan 2009, 14:09,
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