Extra England university places for wealthy considered
"Universities in England may be permitted to make extra places available for wealthy British students, under government proposals."
Here we go. Elitism ahoy.
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Avast is still alive!!!!, Tue 10 May 2011, 9:13,
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Not that bothered
From looking at it it's not taking anything away from existing students, they still need the grades and they're paying through the nose for it.
It would be elitism if they were taking away a place from a poorer student but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 10 May 2011, 9:41,
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They say it's going to "free up places" for poor people...
They also said the highest rate of top-up fees would only apply in "exceptional circumstances," and now every fucker is charging £9000.
It would not surprise me in the least if these "extra places" became the norm in the most prestigious universities.
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Its to free up places
.. for scuffers who can't afford to pay for their place .. good idea making the rich pay more and the poor pay less :-)
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Only really an issue, that I can see,
If the elite can buy their A level results too ....
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zacherynuk @echo off, Tue 10 May 2011, 9:48,
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In a roundabout way they can
Extra tuition, better equipment etc.
Whilst money can replace natural tallent it can help grow the talent that's there.
If you've not got the money you just need to try harder to get ahead.
Might not seem fair but without some very draconian rules the rich will always get a head start.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 10 May 2011, 9:53,
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Of course it's fair
There are plenty of ways to get ahead; cash and heritage are often thought of as the be all and end all.
Curiosity, hard work, determination, interest, passion, flexibility, drive, humour, charisma and luck are far more important.
Stress levels do play a significant role, too, though, both personal and family. But cash is not a cure for stress.
You have often got to make your own luck – ever noticed how the most driven people seem to be the luckiest?
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zacherynuk @echo off, Tue 10 May 2011, 10:11,
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Could be wrong but
I got the impression it was to encourage sponsorship from industry. At the moment the unversities have a minimum percentage of UK students on courses and then try to stuff every other place above the minimum with higher-rate paying foreign students. If industry sponsored the higher rate places, then the universities could afford to take on more UK based students. There is a big difference in the reporting across the Guardian - Telegraph spectrum. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
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nameleft has bought a new telescope, Tue 10 May 2011, 9:53,
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