Priti’s Gone
Apologies for Metro link but the news is out that Priti Patel has “resigned”.
Edit: for my own 2p worth this just makes May look even weaker. If she couldn’t rustle up the backbone to sack Patel for a gaffe like this and she continues to let Boris do his thing without consequence she’ll be resigning herself before too long. Add in the Brexit papers embarrassment and one can be forgiven for wondering if anyone in government is doing much in the way of governing. At least on the bright side I’ve learnt more about one of the few Tory MPs I have any respect for, in the form of Anna Soubry.
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jonbob loves you, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 19:24,
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Off to the back benches where she is no longer held back by cabinet collective responsibility.
Should be fun to watch.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 19:44,
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Bye!
Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out!
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 20:13,
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She had an impossible job: to find people willing to accept vast amounts of money but who wouldn't spunk it on Rolls-Royces, wristwatches and London property.
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After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Wed 8 Nov 2017, 20:15,
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She could have sent it to me to spend on cider and scratch cards
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 20:24,
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I don't really think it makes May look weaker.
If you're about to sack someone and they resign in front of you then you simply accept their resignation as convenient. You certainly don't look any stronger by indignantly refusing the resignation then immediately declaring they're fired.
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There's a big difference between being sacked and being asked/told to resign.
One's a badly-needed show of leadership qualities and the other is a face-saving gesture, which in this case means Patel saves face and May loses face.
I don't believe for one minute that Patel resigned voluntarily but I suppose we'll never know, which is rather the point. That said if this were any normal job she'd have been sacked on the spot and this is another example of the double-standards we see applied to politics vs. everyday life.
Let's not forget that the final straw was Patel not disclosing meetings with Israeli political figures after just being chewed out for the exact same thing. She had her chance to come clean and, frankly, was just taking the piss. There should be consequences for her actions, not just a free pass to go back to her old job.
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jonbob loves you, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 21:16,
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It depends what you mean by resigned voluntarily though.
If you're definitely going to be sacked (everyone knows it), then it's just politeness to resign. It's voluntary in the sense that you are volunteering to be polite about it, but you are not going to be doing the job any more either way so the resignation is forced.
Ultimately there is no difference. She would be just as free to get another job in government later if she was sacked, although perhaps marginally less likely to be offered it by a colleague due to a possible perceived risk of being a boat rocker if things don't go your way.
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It's the disparity between normal life and Westminster that I find most galling.
If you meet an old friend who works for a competitor and let slip a few trade secrets you expect to be called in front of the management and if you're very, very lucky you'll be given the chance to come clean and apologise rather than be dismissed on the spot.
If you then squander that chance for contrition and it's later found out that you gave them the special sauce recipe as well then any other employer would have you out of the door faster than you can say P45. I don't think I'm being especially harsh in thinking that being shown clemency and essentially throwing it in their face should have real consequences, like having the whip withdrawn. We see the same sort of thing happening in board rooms the world over where executives, having royally fucked up, get a nice pay-off and a friendly handshake.
We can agree to disagree about sacking vs. compulsory resignation, but surely you can see why many people are annoyed when politicians do things like this and seem to get off scot-free.
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jonbob loves you, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 22:17,
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Yeah it's pretty galling.
But there's been a long history of this sort of thing, and what can really be done about it? People forget about stuff after a while and you can come back to the table... that's human nature.
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If I remember correctly
The resignation often comes after a sacking and legally it is the resignation that is used as the reason. Something to do with the fact that a sacking has to be in writing whereas a resignation is verbal. Therefore it is possible that May sacked her and she saved face by resigning.
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 23:30,
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Bring back Liz Truss!
No reason other than teh sexeh
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 21:02,
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More pork market action
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRhlRM6rYck
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Marxist Pig Better Red Than Smeg, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 21:19,
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FAP FAP
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*oink*
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 21:30,
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I'd like to pork her, you know, market.
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waz4444 Escorts, bescorts - Come in if you're saucy., Wed 8 Nov 2017, 23:49,
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I bet she has tenderloins
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 9 Nov 2017, 10:27,
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Why is it always the Priti ones....
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Marxist Pig Better Red Than Smeg, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 21:20,
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