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This is a link post There is not and never has been a housing crisis
It's got graphs and everything.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 9:27, Reply)
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Interesting points but....

it was commissioned by the "center for policy studies" a right wing conservative thinktank which was in part started by Thatcher herself.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, you can prove anything with facts can't you...
..I don't think comparing a dwelling to a Ferrari is helpful regardless of the argument and although I am an anecdotal sample of one...I couldn't afford a house (where I live) and nor could my wife...I have friends with perfectly good jobs still living with parents or sharing because rent is over half their wage.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:27, Reply)
This is a normal post The yacht comment is just idiotic,
people need a house to live in. Nobody needs a yacht.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh...
they are actually ready made tweets for you to tweet!

Classy.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Exactly.
Lost credibility at that point and doesn't do much to regain it.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:37, Reply)
This is a normal post doesn't even mention council/social housing,
which is surely where the crisis is, otherwise why the "bedroom tax"?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:40, Reply)
This is a normal post also
what exactly do they mean by "household"? Surely "there are more houses than households" is practically a tautology, given that "a household" means "a group of people living in a house". Some households own two houses, of course. But if a 30 year old is still living with parents, that's one household instead of two.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:45, Reply)
This is a normal post FACTS:
www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/jan/21/record-numbers-young-adults-living-with-parents

3.3 million young adults still count as part of somebody else's household
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Is this Tabs basement?

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:13, Reply)
This is a normal post total garbage

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Sorry, but that seems bullshit to me
Housing is expensive yes, but they don't seem to be addressing the complaint that housing is becoming more expensive as a proportion of income. You just have to look at the mortgages being offered these days. Three times your income used to be considered normal. now it seems to be nearer five.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:50, Reply)
This is a normal post In the early 80's (outside London) 2x salary was considered 'a stretch' by most lenders

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:00, Reply)
This is a normal post mortgage conditions became much more strict after the crash,
deposits are getting ridiculous. The article is correct in saying that it's not all down to a physical shortage of houses, it's not just supply and demand.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:01, Reply)
This is a normal post how about compounded greed, treating houses like any other material good,
and belief in the "housing ladder",
and the vested interests of agents in profit maximisation above all else,
and buy to let meaning that the theoretical households to houses ratio is bullshit,
and virtually no rights or security for tenants increasing demand to buy
etc etc
I could fucking go on

edit: oh yeah and how about successive governments frantically going out of their way to prop up the lower end of the market with give aways

and interest rates not pegged to housing market inflation like they fucking should be
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Houses being intentionally kept empty and off the market,
www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/housing-crisis-10-empty-homes-5008151
presumably waiting for better selling prices?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2187292/Chancellors-parents-splash-new-10m-home--finding-buyer-old-15million-des-res-street.html
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:12, Reply)
This is a normal post There isn't really a housing shortage.
Neither is there an employment shortage.

It's just that all the jobs are in places with few houses, and all the houses are in places with few jobs.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:05, Reply)
This is a normal post Damn right

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Bullshitter uses house price graph that's been adjusted for inflation
without saying that it's 'adjusted for inflation'.
In other words, the real price data is way, way steeper.

And uses other graphs matching rent to CPI, not inflation, nor to average incomes, because it's convenient to his bullshit to pretend there's no difference.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:42, Reply)
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I just cannot believe that the center for policy studies a right wing conservative thinktank would mislead us for their own political means!
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:22, Reply)