Utter cockwomble misses point and impressively manages to outwanker himself
Miss Piggy aka Miss Housekeeping is pretty and fucks? A battle worth fighting! Totally justified in calling her names because....?
What a fucking arsehole. It doesn't matter a rat's gonad if this woman dines out on fried kittens every night, he talks and acts like a proper cunt. Maybe that's why he's popular.
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Have the Mexicans started building it?
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 18:59,
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According a Mexican brewer, they are building a beer wall. That sounds quite excellent.
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So this is fine to post
but Clinton stuff isn't? lol
And this is just preaching to the choir. Same as every other outlet. I think it's you who's missed the point here, none of these posts seem to make any difference at all. It's like Bush jr all over again, same old smears.
He won remember. Twice.
The more this stuff gets spread, the harder the reaction to it.
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You do see the difference between vague smears about the behaviour of campaign teams following a debate
and the actual words of a presidential candidate, don't you?
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 18:51,
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Yes
Also corruption and lies from the current administration/candidate, cover ups and bullying are also an issue.
But, keep posting anti Trump propaganda to the converted. Let's see how that's going. She's losing.
To Trump, is she really such a winner? I think you guys are deluding yourselves.
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He's a Grade-A cunt, and he vigorously defends his cuntishness.
That's not propaganda, that's my opinion. It's a mere coincidence that this view is shared by most of the world and has been for a long time.
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That's the really concerning thing
She's fucking up her campaign the same way the remain camp did - by telling the opposition supporters they're all mental racists and failing to talk to them like actual functioning human beings.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 19:51,
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I didn't say losing
I said fucking up.
Also be careful with polls. There weren't many that said Brexit or the last Tory general election win was on were there?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Sep 2016, 20:13,
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My thought is tha Trump is hands down winning
I've checked out both sides rallies. Clinton's (if she can be bothered) does one here and there with small crowds. Trump has even turned away thousands, not enough room.
She has way less twitter followers and way less on reddit and whatever, like, loads way less.
For all the hype on TV about her, she's STILL losing.
If you watch what's going on, there's a real anger about the reality of what's happening and the media version. That's exactly why facts don't make any difference at all in this election.
Most people know about the Clinton cover ups over the years, she's just been involved in too many things.
Her time was last time she ran. It's too late for her now.
And the final nail in the coffin, I think, will be what seems to be her involvement with shutting down Sanders with dirty tricks. So any Sanders voters on the fence will jump to Trump. And if these racism videos come out (which there's talk of), the black vote will go to Trump.
This is just my prediction of what's going to happen.
Like I say, I don't really care who wins.
Shirley I can't be the only one seeing this?
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Actually that particular site had it neck and neck right to the last
and the FT couldn't have been in UKIPs pocket because they are in Trump's
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Don't trust polls
both sides have different versions of the truth. I don't think they mean anything.
What I think does count are people who are active. I mean, show up at rallies, make posters and walk around streets. Real people, who do stuff like vote.
Right now, Trump looks to be way ahead in that department. Check for yourself, he had to turn away thousands just the other day. Thousands!
Hillary doesn't seem to have the numbers or seems to want to go out rallying, meeting people and all that. If you're a supporter, doesn't that piss you off? I mean, what is she doing?
Look at the way bands work, they tour. Get it out there, but she's not doing it and Trump is.
What it's coming down to this election is not facts, who said what or to who, it's about exactly the opposite. Clinton hasn't grasped that yet. It will be her undoing.
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look
I'm not out to promote Trump. Here's a video I made if this means anything www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocm0IH2Lgto
Or to put Hillary down. Why does it bother you so much?
Surely you're not saying this should be a pro Hillary site and not allowed to suggest other sides to the story?
you can get that at /r/hillaryclinton/ or /r/politics .
If you're a trump supporter you can get that at /r/The_Donald/
I'd like to think B3Ta was above that bullshit censorship of posts. Mods or users.
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Both sides can fuck right off.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 6:18,
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HC is a politician, DT is a salesman
DT has been a cunt to his business partners, his contractors, his staff, his customers, and anyone that criticises him. I watched several seasons of his TV show and the cunt didn't once form an opinion based on anything other than a gauge of what everyone else in the room thought was popular.
The fact that others see the above and somehow perceive him as a 'winner' is just depressing.
The possibility that this guy will be heading the US's engagement with the ROTW is simply terrifying. This is why I care.
That's also why, during the debate, HC took time out from pimping herself to the electorate to address/reassure leaders in other countries. DT is promising to shake them down for cash for the US's continued military defences and at the same time promising to make their imports more expensive. He's also extremely blasé about nuclear proliferation and would doubtlessly enjoy a 'small' nuclear war somewhere unimportant. They must be shitting themselves at what crazy thing the crazy country will do next.
HC is a politician. This is the minimum job requirement. If she gets in the ROTW will just get on with the rest of its day. Who gives a fuck about emails?
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" I watched several seasons of his TV show and the cunt didn't once form an opinion based on anything other than a gauge of what everyone else in the room thought was popular. "
So what you're saying is despite being a cunt you still bought his product for several seasons? Also that he apparently listens to people around him rather than do what he wants?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:59,
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Watching TV =/= buying his product
We're fans of the UK apprentice, so we were watching both shows at some point on the BBC
Week after week, Trump utterly failed to formulate any opinions whatsoever without some kind of 'show of hands'. He rarely if ever betrayed any thought process or values of his own. Alan Sugar is a Mensa genius by comparison.
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Also
see Brexit.
And second Bush term election for good comparison.
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I think there is truth in this,
but I really don't know what politicians are supposed to do against all the post-fact shite that does so well.
If they join in, it validates it, and leads to even more dumbing down.
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monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 0:11,
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I know what you mean
but, my point, I think you missed (probably due to my lack of explaining well tbh) is that, like you say " I really don't know what politicians are supposed to do against all the post-fact shite that does so well.
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please excuse me using your own words, but it illustrates my point.
If you look at the way you've worded it, it comes across instantly as the exact kind of phrasing that a Trump supporter would instantly dismiss. It's this kind of phrasing and talk that triggers that demographic. Now, look online, you'll see a huge support for Trump.
If anything, it has a negative impact for the Clinton campaign. Any support for this phrasing is preaching to the choir, and that choir is not active as far as real life goes (going to rallies, voting, making signs for their yards etc. etc.) But that kind of phrasing is actively pushing people to react, which in turn, turns into votes.
You're a long time member like me, doesn't this whole Pepe the frog being branded a hate symbol bother you?
You, like me, Rob, even down to Ben Wheatley who's doing well now.
If we go down this path, and say, something happens where this site gets classed as a hate speech site (we all know we tread a thin line here with our sense of humour). What then?
Maybe we go to a job interview, some association with a hate group. Ben makes a legit political film? instant dismissal because of an association to a 'hate speech site'.
I'm more than a little concerned about that if I'm honest and I think we as a community should address it. I don't want to be classed as a racist because I posted here over the years.
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I think it's far harder to gain left wing
votes based on emotions than right wing ones. Right wing groups can use far more tribalist sentiment and fear. It's Britain First vs Jeremy 4 PM stuff on Facebook. They both cherry pick information for the sake of emotion instead of rationality, but Britain First are going "You should be scared about this" rather than "You should think this man is great" - people are going to sit up and take notice of anything that may put them in danger or makes them angry. Neither use logic in their arguments, but what's to be done?
All the recent censorship-of-speech and public-shaming stuff is scary, but I don't really see that as a left-right issue - look how offended right wing people get about a stupid left wing idea. Christian Voice and the Jerry Springer stuff aren't really different to someone wanting to ban Germaine Greer from a university. Both should be ridiculed rather than it becomming yet another partisan thing.
I really blame social media for most of this shit - you only see one side of a conversation, it's easy to get an online mob together of people who think the same way as you, and it seems people will abuse any power they are given. Saw social media blamed for a rise in mental health issues, and it really doesn't surprise me. It can be toxic for debate.
In terms of b3ta, I suspect there is safety in obsfucation. We tend to use avatars (in your case, good look to anyone searching "tits" to try and find dirt on you), and because people have to sign up before they can call you a cunt, are less likely to form a mob around it - it's not instant pleasure for them, research would be required to trace someone (since no one ever bothers to even do a reverse image search before sharing an angry meme, that's unlikely), and its hard to do any virtue signalling on a threaded messageboard when comments are seen in context.
It's the data that's saved by the likes of Facebook that scares me far more - that's the stuff that's going to be scraped and used to profile you in future. I've seen plenty of people click 'like' on quite innocent sounding posts by far right groups - "here's a stock picture of a poppy - share if you don't hate our veterans" etc.
By cherry picking from so much data on our internet history, anyone can be made out to be anything.
(Reading a book at the moment called Future Crimes on how our internet data is stored - fucking terrifying)
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monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 1 Oct 2016, 10:59,
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I've never considered that people on here might be virtue signalling
What a terrible thought
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