Hip hop
No question, bar a very few exceptions it's fucking dismal these days and I'd be hard pressed to come home with a single record if I went out to buy some - but it's a huge mistake to think it was all brilliant back in the 80s. For every old skool classic there were 5 bollocks records, I should know - I bought them all. Yes, 'Whistle, 'Just Buggin' I'm looking at you, and all your rubbish mates.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:05, 85 replies)

Ah dont take em seriously

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:10, closed)

If only I'd listened to the lyrics!!!
I've been such a fool!
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:10, closed)

Some new hip hop is excellent, you're just stuck in the past oild man

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:14, closed)

Gaz me some links so I can ridicule your terrible taste.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:16, closed)

Er have you never heard of THE FRESH PRINCE
Case mutha fuckin closed... Hippity hoppity legend
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:21, closed)

Actually, this is good:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1f2b1BAIek

Kid & Play did a couple of decent records too.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:23, closed)

not exactly new though is it?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:24, closed)

Not *exactly*, Nakers, no.
Nor even inexactly.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:25, closed)

I said hello to Jazzy Jeff once, in Deal Real records in Soho.
True - but also cool - story.

He's not all that 'jazzy' in real life. No zoot suit etc, none of that stuff. If anything he was like one of those 'rap' fellows you hear about.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:26, closed)

but did he have a highhat riff following him round
tsst tst tst tsssst
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:31, closed)

Well yes, he did have that.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:31, closed)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmmyRzx0UVE
( Wet-chinned bag shanker Cannot parse Wogan, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:30, closed)

*rings*

*rangs*


*dongs*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:30, closed)

see also
Snot Rap
Ant Rap
Wham Rap
Stutter Rap


All technically old skool rap records.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:31, closed)

Mel Brooks: 'Hitler Rap'

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:34, closed)

Debbie Harry doing Rapture is probably the most excruciating rap I've ever experienced.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:43, closed)

Let me think.
There *must* be worse.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:46, closed)

JOHN BARNES

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:51, closed)

^ there you go.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:54, closed)

Oo. It's a close call but I'm going to have to stick with my first answer.
Because I'm inately racist and cannot accept that a black man is worse than a white woman at rapping.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 18:13, closed)

it's their natural rhythm
Edit: I was brought up in the home counties and actually believed this until my first Notting Hill carnival in the late 80s, when my 'black people are all really cool' theory was well and truly torpedoed for ever
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 18:19, closed)

Haha.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:55, closed)

anything by Fred Durst.

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 19:24, closed)

I'm sure that there's much worse than that.
You just need to listen more carelessly.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:14, closed)

Anyone disses this and I swear I'll do time
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJz6sxcEiPQ
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:15, closed)

wow.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:17, closed)

Spinal Rap

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 19:18, closed)

The Stutter Rap
From Morris Minor and the Majors......
Tony Hawks has been dining on that one for years
(andythepieman Is surfing the waves of indifference on, Tue 3 Sep 2013, 14:46, closed)

*gets down*

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:31, closed)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5tEKwz2J1A
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:33, closed)

soz listening to T'Pau now

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:37, closed)

soz indeed

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:42, closed)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=93V-iVPmOjI
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 16:35, closed)

am I doing this right?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXl5P2xO9-o
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 19:14, closed)

yes.
But also no.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 19:52, closed)

Wow, you really know what you're talking about.
oh wait. I meant 'who cares what you have to say?'

This applies to everything said on the qotw this week. And every other week.
(Dr Doctor Can't you see I'm burning burning?, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 19:20, closed)

oh Dr Doctor. Why so glum?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 19:52, closed)

Why so glum can't you see, I'm burning, burning
( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:24, closed)

damnit beat me to it.
Why you would go see a GP if you were on fire is beyond me though
(andythepieman Is surfing the waves of indifference on, Tue 3 Sep 2013, 14:47, closed)

Oooh look Monters, you've got your very own 'I've created this account just to have a go at YOU' poster.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:23, closed)

I feel honoured. And more than a bit turned on.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:32, closed)

Dry your eyes, treacle.
Mummy will change you and give you a rusk when she's done with her gentleman caller.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:57, closed)

I apologise
On behalf of all of us. I'm genuinely horrified that you're disappointed.
(SnowyTheWereRabbit the Leporid from Hell, Fri 30 Aug 2013, 0:25, closed)

Good new hiphop... Not sure these fulfil any of the criteria, but here you go: Big Calm, Bombing Bastards, Cryptik Souls Crew, Whatever the fuck this is by Eli.

Herbaliser did some OK stuff - pretty good live show, too. I'm also partial to a little Fun Lovin' Criminals, on occasion. Even Outkast, at a push.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:12, closed)

Edan is the best current ish MC to my knowledge
I once spent a hilarious night with the Herbaliser chaps in Cork. We stole Grooverider's hash, namedrop fans
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:31, closed)

I saw some of Grooverider some time in the late 90s at Scumton Uni. Just awful. I left early. Maybe nicking his stash might have made it more bearable.

Last live music I saw was Jim Jones at the Thekla, courtesy of a recommendation from someone on here. They were really rather splendid.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:42, closed)

Jim Jones is the best live act around.
When I was a kid I thought his first band Thee Hypnotics were the best thing ever and I followed them aroundlike a very gay lost sheep until they split up, probably in the hope of escaping me.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:02, closed)

I was a bit gutted that they'd replaced the keyboard player who looks a bit like Lurch on the "Princess and the Frog" video. They had some tubby youngster on instead. He was good, but looked a bit out of place.

I suppose I should check out some of his older stuff.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:10, closed)

his second band Black Moses were not so good

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:14, closed)

Jim Jones has just remixed the new Depeche Mode single, apparently.
I'd imagine that this flies in the face of your sensibilities.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:44, closed)

ps that last one is tremendous

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:35, closed)

The forthcoming Deltron 3030 album will probably be immense.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:36, closed)

u no dat

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:37, closed)

It makes me cringe.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:50, closed)

I've watched it three times now

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:53, closed)

Also, I'm counting this as number four, and way before schedule.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:23, closed)

one in the bank, niggy

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:39, closed)

Yeah, there's loads of excellent hip hop these days.
Just avoid the chart shit, innit.

Death Grips and Odd Future are worth checking out.

Even ten years back there was superb stuff being put out by Mush and Def Jux.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:41, closed)

Company Flow were the most emperor's new clothes act ever.
Everyone was so desperate for them to be good they failed to notice that bruv couldn't mc for shit and the production was toss.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 20:52, closed)

Cannibal Ox were much, much, much better.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgllloQg4
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:03, closed)

I was going to post the same thing.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:05, closed)

yup

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:06, closed)

I've just been delighted to note that Vast Aire apparently has a solo career.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:12, closed)

his brother Pubic is better

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:13, closed)

sorry

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:15, closed)

You massive fucking cunt.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:17, closed)

Did you ever get round to checking out Dr Octagon?
Key tracks are Bear Witness and Blue Flowers.

Also, terrible rapping by Bobby G here:

youtu.be/btqrBhg2g6c
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:13, closed)

Spiderman was shit.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:24, closed)

He was nowhere near as bad a rapper as 50 Cent though.
Cut a nigga some slack, yeah?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:27, closed)

Kool Keith is a weird one
(Mr_Lew, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:40, closed)

Sho nuff
But he's an excellent emcee.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:41, closed)

But Monty...
It's just musical theft with no talent anywhere in sight.

Then again, seeing as the majority of the music plundered for rap 'music' is soul and funk, it's black on black crime. It's therefore expected and us white people are better off out of it.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:07, closed)

There is good recent hip hop out these days
But yeah it is few and far between. I remember people saying how no good rap came out in the late 90's but looking back on it now there are some gems that stood out.

Good new hip-hop to me at least, would be People Under The Stairs, Q-Tip's album and mos Def's album (no matter how much of an arrogant prick he is). Admittedly you could say those three alone are recreating the best of the golden era, albeit with a modern edge.

I guess it's just hip-hop's overall sound these days that is so different (read: shite) compared to back then...
(Mr_Lew, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:43, closed)

I'm in a PUTS video for about 0.1 seconds, along with my 'pal' Yeti

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:45, closed)

Nice
Which one?

Also in my post, I put 'these three alone'; I'm not trying to say they are the only three albums that are any good in that, FYI!
(Mr_Lew, Fri 30 Aug 2013, 17:01, closed)

Oh man
I love Black on Both Sides.

Except the first track, it'a a bit shit TBH.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:47, closed)

Universal Magnetic is a masterpiece

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 21:48, closed)

innit
Are Rawkus still going? They burned briefly but brightly.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 29 Aug 2013, 22:08, closed)

Nay the folded years ago
Some good releases on that label.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:28, closed)