Soppy post alert
I just want to say thank you so much to everyone who replied to my message (http://www.b3ta.com/questions/addicted/post334476), either there or by gaz, and offered me advice and support and good luck; you have no idea how much it has helped me to get through the last couple of days and, although I'm still feeling pretty weird about the whole thing, the advice you have all given me has made it so much easier to figure out what to do (not that I really have entirely).

I thought I'd just update you quickly, too; the friend who agreed to work his shifts today while he started the process of kicking it bailed on him and he couldn't face working without so he plans to have his last this afternoon and then spend the next couple of days getting past the worst with some Subutex. He's hoping not to be too sick with it by Christmas Day, but I don't know how realistic that is.

Anyway, thank you so much. You lovely internet people have been such a lifeline for me over the last couple of days. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
(clumsyeloquence is a girl, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:01, 36 replies)

he won't quit
he'll just tell you he has and carry on enjoying the sweet H

you lose
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:02, closed)

Christ but you're a twat.
Someone's having something difficult to deal with, and all you can do is make them feel worse about it? You really are an utter cunt. I hope you die alone, and soon.
(Shimrod, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:13, closed)

Don't feed the troll.

( Mike Fishcake teamfishcake.co.uk - better than your mum's face, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:14, closed)

Errr, dosn't that make you a shit as well?

(thediscokingpin, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:16, closed)

Stop trolling rathen !
Who on earth are you to wish that someone dies alone and prematurely?

That's bang out of order, where's your christmas spirit?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:20, closed)

Has your spelling got better Gonz?

( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:23, closed)

also
you knew exactly what to get him for Christmas and then go and ruin it

silly cow
( Barry Chuckle III - the troll with a soul., Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:09, closed)

Haha

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:16, closed)

All the best!
With a little bit of luck he'll be found dead in a doorway soon enough, like the junkie scum he clearly is!
( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:11, closed)

You can never have too many dead smackheads

(bogus official shove it up your cunt, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:15, closed)

I suppose the plus side is they dont tend to live that long, even when they get a government funded habit at a 'clinic'

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:15, closed)

its a alternative fuel source
only downside is the other addicts hanging about the cremation center wanting to inhale the smoke.
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:32, closed)

I'm sure it will be alright;
Arnold Rimmer from Red Dwarf had a H problem too and he was ok...
( Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:15, closed)

to be fair
he was dead to begin with.
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:18, closed)

No that was Jacob Marley

(The Oscillating Gibbon is eating curried squid, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:22, closed)

You should give the smack a try.
It's really nice, gives you a warm feeling like your getting a hug from a teddy bear water bottle thing.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:16, closed)

Plus, if you go and give it a go, you'll know what he's talking about and what he's going through.
It'll help your relationship no end.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:17, closed)

There's always crystal meth
Apparently thats really easy to make
( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:18, closed)

thats the one where you can make a radio out of it innit?

( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:19, closed)

And what with the economic downturn, DIY presents are all the rage

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:19, closed)

Can I have his left-over stash please?
I NEED SOME HORSE
( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:19, closed)

best of all the animals

(PsychoChomp, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:20, closed)

wot
no boz boz?
( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:30, closed)

Do you believe him?

( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:19, closed)

.
Not sure yet
(clumsyeloquence is a girl, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:25, closed)

Well I hope he is telling the truth
But don't automatically believe him :)
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:26, closed)

I won't
and thanks.
(clumsyeloquence is a girl, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 16:27, closed)

Huzzah for being gullible and supporting a junkie.
Merry Fucking Christmas Junkie Scum!
( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 17:00, closed)

Good luck

I read your last post and wish you all the best - I just hope he cares about you as much as you do about him.

All the best, and ignore some of the other retards who have less constructive things to say...
( Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 18:05, closed)

...
Retards? In that they're pointing out what a *massively* stupid idea this is?

They may not have been very subtle about it but when it's as bloody obvious as this it's hard to take seriously.

to the OP: ditch him, like you should have done already.
(Gazebo will eat you on, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 22:04, closed)

:)
Cheers darlin'
(clumsyeloquence is a girl, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 23:31, closed)

Some people may have a point
but they're not making it very well. Yes he might be taking you for a ride but you are with him for a reason and maybe that's something you don't want to give up on too easily, and good for you for having that courage. People dismiss drug addicts without ever asking what made them start in the first place - what made them think their lives were so unbearable that they wanted to escape. My boyfriend was a coke addict for some time and his ex didn't giveup on him, and now he's been clean for 2 and a half years and started to resolve the issues that made him become an addict in the first place. He's the most amazing and special man I have ever met. Have a little faith, things may just work out. Just don't scarifice your own health and sanity, is all.
(Petite chien is going to do science to it, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 22:10, closed)

Thank you
There's not a lot that unbearable in his life really, he just really, really wants to be Jim Morrison ;)

I'm maintaining a healthy distance. If he kicks it I'll be back close and if not I'll be a friend and do what I can to help him and nothing more. I'm also going to a Famanon meeting tomorrow on the advice of another poster to see what they say and hopefully learn how to approach the subject of him going to NA or otherwise getting some proper help.

People telling me it might work out is helping, actually. The very close friend I've been talking to about it just told me to leave him immediately and that just made me stress and panic, which is no good to anyone, so I'm taking it slowly and trying to be calm about it for now.
(clumsyeloquence is a girl, Mon 22 Dec 2008, 23:19, closed)

Sane advice... (sorry - quite long)
Ignore the trolls. If it really has only been two months of use then, yes, he will have a nasty habit but H won't have become an absolutely integral part of his life. Now is a golden opportunity for him to break free before every experience he has under the influence, and every place he uses, becomes a potent trigger by association.

Subutex is a massive improvement on methadone. Depending on how much he has and how serious his heroin habit was/is, it should provide enough relief for him to function over Xmas. Did he get it from his GP btw? If not (and I speak from experience) here's the plan:

He goes to the GP and humbly confesses to having become addicted to Dihydrocodeine (known as DF118 tablets in their most common 30mg guise). He can claim to have acquired these via the internet (They can, with a litte ingenuity and a fair bit of cash be ordered without prescription from chemists in the Philippines and various other SE Asian nations). This does not represent the same stain on your medical records (which can lead to difficulties obtaining life insurance etc.) that confessing to a smack habit does. And the GP is going to look at him as a bit wayward or naive rather than a total disaster. Obviously some doctors are a lot more sympathetic than others.

If he says he's on 13 tablets a day (260mg)- a high but not unrealistic dose - and that he'd like to do a subutex detox then they'll almost certainly agree to this. This means he'll be under GP supervision (and you can join your chap at his appointments to help your peace of mind). I won't bore you with a chemistry lesson but subutex contains a chemical which means that it is impossible, or at least unpleasant, to take in conjunction with heroin.

Without knowing your boyfriend or indeed you that's all the advice I can give. In all honesty, the statistics would suggest that a relapse at some point is likely. I must add though that my girlfriend discovered my secret H habit when she found me slumped in a stupour on the loo, foil in hand, about seven years ago. I'd been using when I met her and it was two years into our relationship. It took me two tough years to get clean but I wanted to be sobre for our marriage. I've been off the hard stuff ever since and we now have a two-year-old and a rather splendid life in the countryside.

It's not impossible but I'd be surprised and impressed if your boyfriend gets clean at the very first attempt. Good luck and Christmas hugs. Get in touch if you need further info.
(RayPugh So, what are you wearing?, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 11:17, closed)

Good luck
I know nowt about drugs, but it sounds nasty. Hope you are successful. Are you anywhere near Derbyshire by any chance?
( Greenbat, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 14:09, closed)

Thank you
Nope, London.
(clumsyeloquence is a girl, Tue 23 Dec 2008, 17:18, closed)