Exactly wrong.
A creator theory is NOT a religious concept. The religiousness of it comes from the surrounding ritual and mythology.

A creator theory is just that - a theory.

I have not implied anything - merely pointed out that science - just as creator-theorists do - requires the belief that the followed school of thought is correct.

What music has to do with it was - and for this I apologise - my being flippant - "soul" in music such as James Brown, gospel, dirty rock n' roll, reggae, gospel and country, as opposed to approaching it as just the realisation of a sonic mathematical complex.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 13:50, 1 reply)

First line of wikipedia: Creationism (my bolding)
"Creationism is the religious belief that humanity, life, the Earth, and the universe are the creation of a supernatural being."

It seems that you're out of touch with popular opinion on this one.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 14:01, closed)

No.
That's CreationISM.

Simply accepting that there is a theory that there is a creator - or, indeed - actually believing there is a creator - is not creationism the religion. It's simply accepting that there is a theory that there is a creator - or, indeed - actually believing there is a creator.

It's proper noun verses noun territory.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 14:21, closed)

The theory of creation, or the theory that there is a creator *is* creationism.
There's no difference; the invocation of a supernatural creator places it clearly within the bounds of religion. Sorry, but you're arguing on the side of the nutjobs here, no matter how much you try to distance yourself from them.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 14:37, closed)

I'm not arguing anything.
As I have said, repeatedly.

You seem desperate to label me as a god-botherer and to damn me for it - good luck with that - you would be wrong to.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 15:24, closed)

Just pointing out there is no non-religious theory of creation
and that you certainly seem to be on the side of the men in black dresses
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 15:45, closed)

Yes there is.
That of "I think that a creator created the universe, but I'm not going to celebrate, mythologise, or ritualise such".

I don't seem to be on anyone's side, and I don't know why you would perceive such. Just because I don't like ice cream doesn't mean I like chocolate.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 16:07, closed)

Yet said creator would have to be a supernatural entity
Or at least outside the bounds of nature as we know it. Whether you worship a god or not, believing in one places you firmly back in the religious camp. Besides, it was you who posted the "men in white coats/men in black dresses" stuff, and from what you've posted, you're definitely not on the side of the scientists.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 16:14, closed)

You still appear to be confusing theism
with religion.

The two are quite different, I assure you. It is possible to be a theist without being religious, and, indeed, one can be a creationist without being a Creationist.

I am neither, have never expressed allegiance to either, and I don't know why on earth you think I am more inclined to one or the other.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 16:18, closed)

Religion and theism are pretty close
"Religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of life and the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency, or human beings’ relation to that which they regard as holy, sacred, spiritual, or divine."

"Theism, in the broadest sense, is the belief that at least one deity exists. In a more specific sense, theism refers to a doctrine concerning the nature of a monotheistic God and God's relationship to the universe."

You might be thinking of "deism".
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 21:59, closed)

not necessarily

( sandettie light vessel automatic New Twitter - @bollocksreally, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 17:39, closed)

Yes, necessarily.
In order to create the universe, a creator would have to exist outside said universe, violating the "natural" laws of this universe, hence supernatural.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 18 Jan 2011, 22:02, closed)