Well thankyou
I've paid rent all my life, or my parents have. I've also never lived anywhere outside of a council estate, I've borrowed cash and had to pawn stuff every now and then to get by. (oh, and I also do happen to think that the state owes people a living, given that its the reason we have taxes and such - and after all, if the goverment has cash to bail out an apparently free market capitalist system I think it can spare a few quid for someone who can't find work or is too ill to work)

But thankyou! You see, I used to think that I was just poor, disadvantaged in some ways and would have to continue to work bloody hard to get anywhere. Now I know that I'm just common. Lucky me. I'd better go do whatever us commoners do now, and eat with my elbows on the table without using the correct fork for the fish dish.
(Fredz A graveyard of hopes, a dump of ambition, Sun 19 Oct 2008, 13:23, 1 reply)

State owing people a living
In a way, yes, but if the OP meant the kind of people who sit on their arse with no intention of even trying to make their own living and expect to be spoon fed, then no, let them starve for a while.
( SteamedCleaner, Sun 19 Oct 2008, 15:01, closed)

Well yes
But that would require a system for welfare that, actualy functioned instead of allowing benifits and tax releif to compensate for the criminaly low wages paid by some (not all) employers. And thats just way too unpopular and long term to win an election with
(Fredz A graveyard of hopes, a dump of ambition, Sun 19 Oct 2008, 15:53, closed)