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Some mugs still think the MMR injection gives children autism (it doesn't), while others are of the belief that we're ruled by billionaire lizard people. Tell us about views outside the mainstream which people go glassy eyed if you bang on about them (Your grandad's a racist - no need to tell us, thanks)

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(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 12:06)
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Money is more important than people.

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 13:14, 34 replies)
money is debt and vice versa

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 13:19, closed)
Where's MGT when you need her?

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 13:32, closed)
Monet was more impotent than Manet.

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 13:51, closed)
Everything is more important than people

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 13:52, closed)
you're not

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 13:54, closed)
I'm people

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 13:56, closed)
Depends on
whose money
and which people.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:02, closed)
All money
All people.

People are infintely replacable, money is finite.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:06, closed)
no it isn't,
the central bank can print as much of it as it deems appropriate. Otherwise inflation and population growth wouldn't be able to happen at the same time.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:13, closed)
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :D

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:16, closed)
So it's finite, then.
It must be kept finite, or it loses value and Hitler.

People, however, can be replaced.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:22, closed)
only in the same way that people are finite,
as in, can grow without bound, although there is always a finite amount of it at any one time.

Of course it would be absurd to print an infinite amount of money, but there isn't a limit, and it certainly can be replaced. If it ever gets destroyed (which the central bank can do as well).

If humanity were wiped out, it wouldn't be replaceable, but if money disappeared (as in a total collapse of modern civilisation) we could re-invent it again later.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:25, closed)
If humanity is wiped out
who's going to reinvent money?
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:29, closed)
never mind that,
what would you buy?
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:30, closed)
Nothing.
You've just wiped us out, remember.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 18:35, closed)
Nah. Without restriction on production, money's worthless.
There's no restriction on the production of people, so they're (pretty well) worthless.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:33, closed)
There is a restriction on the production of people,
it's called the food supply. Amongst other things. The only restriction on the production of money is... well, there isn't one. I never heard an economist complain of too much economic growth.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:36, closed)
There isn't a restriction on the production of people.
There are, however, very tight restrictions on the production of money. That's how it retains it's value.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:50, closed)
Yes there is.
The laws of fucking nature.

For fuck's sake.

The only restrictions on the production of money are policy decisions by banks. They can summon money out of thin air whenever they decide it is a good idea. You can't do that with people.

But what of value? What has value to do it? Clearly money doesn't have intrinsic value if its value can go down if you make too much of it. So on what is the value of money contingent? Could it be, perchance, its utility to people?
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:54, closed)
Nature is lawless. The "laws" you speak of are merely projected thoughts of humanity, and not yet in effect.
The restriction of production of money, however, is very real and happening now.

No one restricts the production of people, and you can produce one just out of thin air - simply advertise a job.

Money you cannot, however, and it's value comes from that - that you can't just pluck it out of thin air - because it's restricted. Supply and demand, innit.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 15:16, closed)
haha
you're a mental
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 15:29, closed)
Ah.
In which case, I submit to your superior argument, and bow out, my argument in tatters.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 15:40, closed)
he's got you there mgt

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 15:56, closed)
My girlfriend wants kids
Can you help me draft an advertisement for a temporary part-time PA?
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 16:11, closed)
Sure.
WANTED: Temporary part-time PA.

I'll gaz you the outstanding balance you now owe me, please pay within 7 days.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 16:17, closed)
It takes 9 months to produce a person, you'll have to wait until then. sorry.

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 16:23, closed)
Then don't use your own person.
Buy someone else's if you want one instantly.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 16:40, closed)
But then I wouldn't be producing a person :(

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 16:46, closed)
Depends.
If I turned up and said "I bet you can't produce a person", you could say "Wait here", go and get the one you'd bought, and produce it.

A bit like documents when the police ask you to produce them.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 16:52, closed)
this makes sense

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 17:50, closed)
Well I wouldn't go THAT far.

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 18:33, closed)
plus money couldn't even exist without people,
what with it being an abstract idea in people's minds.
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:28, closed)
If I killed a pensioner and took the box under her mattress
the money would still exist but she wouldn't
(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 17:12, closed)
i think it would be funny oh oh oh

(, Thu 25 Apr 2013, 14:55, closed)

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