Normally - I would be tad dubious of said claims
but given how this has panned out, it wouldnt surprise me if its true. (that its a smear campaign only. No rape occured)

His assistant who helped uncover the crimes, has been held without trial for over 800 days. Makes you wonder why?

And then to the 'rape victims' who could have exposed him when ever they liked, but chose - quite unusually to bring it up when Assange started to look a threat to international government. Either they were on the side of the American government to begin with, or have been manipulated to say he raped them.

When was the last time governments Chased someone for Rape in the manner that our governments have? When they are threatening to break into a foreign embassy?

Seems like the government are handling this like it isnt a Rape prosectuion at all.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:45, 2 replies)

You mean they aren't trying to arrest a man who is suspected of sex crimes?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:47, closed)

I believe his liberties are bing breached
he is being forced to be arrested for crimes I am dubious that he committed. With the only evidence taken from a witness. No physical evidence.

In Jail you cant carry on your wikileaking. It silences you.. whilst you await trial.. which in his friends case, is looking like indefinite trial date.

Without wanting to shout Tin foil hats and all, it reminds me of the case of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_v._Strauss-Kahn

Removed from a position of power by an accusation of rape.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:06, closed)

Fucks sake. Strauss-Kahn has been repeatedly accused of rape and sexual assualt
in the US and in France. What happened in your example was "powerful man got off an accusation of rape because the US legal system tends to favour money and power over truth"

Of course I don't know the details any more than you, so maybe he was innocent. Maybe he's been inncoent of every other rape accusation he's bought his way out of, too.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:10, closed)

Oh, wait.
you're trolling, aren't you? because I'm struggling to believe you're this daft actually.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:11, closed)

..im not siding, nor agreeing with anyone
Im merely pointing out, that people of power are easily removed by an alligation of rape...

its such an easy one to setup and watch them fall.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:12, closed)

What are you talking about, crocodile-like creatures do not make accusations of sexual assault.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:15, closed)

;)
"Allegation"

... i like alligation better,.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:18, closed)

See, well, here's the thing
they should probably stop fucking raping people, then, eh?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:17, closed)

Rapers gonna rape, yo.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:19, closed)

probably
what if they didnt though?

That wouldnt be nice...

you know, a guy being accused of rape, would it? it wouldnt destroy any credibility in him at all would it.... even if it was an "Allegation"
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:19, closed)

it doesn't generally destroy credibility if you're found not guilty.
Strauss-Kahn didn't lose his job because he was accused of rape. He lost his job because, whether it was rape or not, he fucked a hotel maid and several other women who weren't his wife, whilst not telling his wife, and it's considered pretty poor form to be head of the IMF if you're a liar. Doesn't inspire confidence in the whole thing, really.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:22, closed)

youre right
but he resigned.

having an affair isnt that bad... but WAPE? no way.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:28, closed)

Poor old Elmer Fudd got done for wape a few years ago.

( Pig Bodine., Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:32, closed)

It was an intentional mispell.

(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:38, closed)

I got it.
It made you look mega cool.
( TFD is sporting this season's finest necropants, Wed 22 Aug 2012, 18:42, closed)

thanks
(gloats)
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Thu 23 Aug 2012, 12:43, closed)

having an affair isn't that bad, no
oh, except if you hold a position where your honesty must be unquestionable, and you lie about it. Like he did. A lot.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:41, closed)

this part I agree with

(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:53, closed)

OK, for the sake of not just swearing a lot and be amazed how apparently rational people can believe such idiot things
Shall we deal with these points one by one?

- his "assistant" is a serving member of the military and has been detained as such. Why? because they can. Personally, no, I don't like that, but what on earth has that to do with whether Assange raped someone or not?

- You know absolutely nothing (I am assuming, please correct me if I'm wrong) about Swedish judicial process, so how can you comment on this? And I seriously doubt any goverment regards Assange as a "threat". And even in the highly unlikely event these two women are "setting him up" (which isn't really the issue now, is it, becuase he's admitted to what he is accused of, via his lawyer) the Swedish judicial system clearly is not. So, he has nothing to fear from questioning if he isn't guilty. The Swedish legal system is widely held up as a model of fairness and honesty.

- you don't have the faintest idea when someone last pursued someone for rape like this because the newspapers don't bang on about it unless it is someone in the public eye. Extraditions for crimes much lesser than rape happen on almost daily basis.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:56, closed)

Stop it, you're making my willy go fizzy.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 14:58, closed)

I also forgot
he can't be extradited from Sweden or UK or anywhere fucking else in europe to face the death penalty. Not won't, or isn't likely, but CAN'T. given that "fear of facing the death penalty" is one of the legal bases of his spurious appeals against extradition to Sweden, he's at the very least a massive fucking liar.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:01, closed)

Or an idiot. But probably both.
It concerns me that his lawyer went ahead with that one though, as it suggests he either doesn't understand the law himself, or is just parroting whatever Assange tells him to.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:06, closed)

His lawyer "is just parroting whatever Assange tells him to"?
You know that lawyers have to follow their instructions right? That's sort of the basis of the whole thing.

Another fine legal mind.
(apeloverage committed the vile act of onanism on, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:37, closed)

not if they are fucking stupid, or involve breaking the law
I mean, they are supposed to follow instructions, but any half-decent lawyer would have told Assange the grounds for appeal were idiotic.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:40, closed)

Blimey, you really are a mong.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:57, closed)

I love how I provide a vaguely rational and almost polite answer
and underneath, you just say what we're both thinking. It's like a double-team of sexy.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:00, closed)

I'm your internal monologue. On the internet.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:12, closed)

mongologue?

(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 21 Aug 2012, 22:11, closed)

totally done a big wank to this thread

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 16:16, closed)

I dont agree with the 'death penalty' bit myself.
But I can see this is just an easy way to stop assange hooking up a PC with his wikileaks friends and continuing his project to expose the governments.

Its all a little bit too convenient.

Im not denying they had sex.. they did, they both admit that. But to come out and say he raped them, just hours after he was exposed as mr.wikileaks, is a tad rather suspicious.

Why didnt she exclaim at an earlier point? Why wait til the hour he is exposing the very people she was also working to expose?
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:10, closed)

how do you know when she reported it? you only know when the Swedish courts and press announced it
And it's not going to stop him being anywhere near a PC. This is Sweden. SWEDEN. not fucking China. He won't even be remanded in custody if he's charged, unless he demonstrated a massive flight risk. Oh, wait, the idiot fucker jumped bail and saught political asylum? Ah. bit of a problem there. Probably a flight risk after all. So, the only reason he'd be locked up awaiting trial is purely and totally down to his own stupidity. If that's a government seeking to silence someone they've got a seriously roundabout way of doing it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:16, closed)

What the actual fuck?
He'd been known as the founder of Wikileaks for fucking ages before this, and they can easily carry it on without him. It's not about stopping Wikileaks, it's about applying the justice system correctly because an accusation has been made.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:18, closed)

He had
but the allegation came out at the peak of the wikileaks ability of headline hitting.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:30, closed)

You mean when he was at the peak of his attention seeking arrogance and thought he was Wikileaks?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:37, closed)

ahem...'MR'
MR.Wikileaks
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:58, closed)

Im merely
showing you that his accomplice has already been arrested and silenced.

Which i believe is what is happening here. I think alot of people can also see it, hence his support.

It has nothing and everything to do with the rape.

Whether the Rape accusation is true or not... Assange will be held in jail... away from the press, wont be able to communicate, and any data he has will be destroyed whilst we wait for a trial.

They could of course kill him, but then - that attracts bad press, as we saw with that Russian guy with the radiation poisoning.

I agree, if has raped the girl - Then he is a massive dick.
(Dan dan dan They tik urh jerbs!!!, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:16, closed)

as I pointed out above
the only reason he would be held in jail is if he was a flight risk. Which he's just demonstrably shown he is. Making it a fairly odd conspiracy, don't you think, since it relies on him fucking everything up for himself?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 21 Aug 2012, 15:19, closed)