but not with meat?
or, I assume, tomatoes. or any highly calorific vegetables?

I'm not trying to suggest that it won't work. Just that there is a health-related long term price to pay for these diets.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:41, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

No you can have meat, and you can have as many tomatoes as you like.
It doesn't count calories. Fruit and veg are all good.
my sauces are mostly loads of tomato and passata anyway so it's been no great sacrifice.
So if you're a big carnivore, you'd have more meat, and an 'allowed' amount of pasta (still plenty) and if you're a big carb head like me, you'd have a bit of meat in the sauce, enough to meet the daily requirements.
Don't assume then go on a rant. Tomatoes are allowed so nur.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:45, Reply)

it mostly makes you cook your own food
as bought-in sauces etc are packed with salt and sugar that you can't see. When you make it yourself, it's largely free fo those.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:46, Reply)

I'm not assuming here
I was following up on what you said about "not eating two types of thing in the same meal" thing. Obviously I've misunderstood, but pasta and a tomato and meat sauce is protein, carb, sugar, fibre all in one.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I'm saying protein, I mean meat. I told you I don't understand.
And I mean, not big equal amounts rather than NONE in the same meal.
Oh Gordon Bennett, I'm not a rep for Slimming World anyway, but doing their thing has helped me, and improved my skin to boot.
I'm tired now, because I'm malnourished, we'll have to hang up our gloves.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:56, Reply)

it was a little confusing!
things are somewhat clearer though with your latest explanations.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:57, Reply)

I was oversimplifying and being flippant and not understanding the names for things
But I didn't realise I was getting an exam on it!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:59, Reply)

remember where you are ;-)

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 15:00, Reply)

I'm not trying to argue with you, and I've obviously misunderstood the way this works
and fair enough, yours does sound reasonable. I just don't like the way that "nutritionists" get away with peddling harmful shit as diets.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 15:00, Reply)

Yes but some of them
Do help you lose weight
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 15:11, Reply)