Generic Lunch Thread
Went to EAT for the first time today, turns out it's French Onion Soup day, OH FUCK ME, this is awesome, I'm totally getting my soup on this weekend, maybe do a french mushroom soup too, I donno.

My other experment will be vodka/popping-candy/red-bull* jelly.

So, ermm, generic thread.... anyone see big fat gypsy wedding?

* Well, 'v' energy drink.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:46, 180 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

i told you, EAT soups are the way forward!
that french onion one is awesome and it's really low calorie/low fat.

but you wait, my fine soup-eating friend, you just wait until the day they do the chunky minestrone and pesto again...

/orgasms
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:51, Reply)

You need to get out more.

( The Teviot Moose major 5th., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:53, Reply)

ah no
YOU need to try this soup. then you'll see.

you'll all see!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:04, Reply)

Deffo, I've always neglected the soup in the workplace on account of those shit white plastic spoons other places give you, and that you can't get bread in those places eaither.
It sooo hit the spot, I want another one.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:54, Reply)

Oh, and the guilt-tripping Starbucks guy charged me £1.25 for a medium hot milk with hazlenut and toffee sprinkles.
I totally dig hazzlenut milk, it's a craze that'll sweet the nation, espesh at that price.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:59, Reply)

it is even better
if they haven't sold out of CHEESE STRAWS, best of all the soup accompaniments.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:05, Reply)

Totally getting that tomorow.
I got two slices of bread with it, I love the idea of the wastage in packaging to package up half a slice of bread. One of them is going spare, and I think when it comes to value-for-money, it's the most expensive thing I've ever bought.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:13, Reply)

post the recipe
Or link. I am a soup person. My last one being tomato. Rather lovely.
(The Archduke of South London I'm in your Girlfriend eating her organs, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:52, Reply)

Lunch today consists of three pints of water and a mug of green tea.
I wish I had money.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:54, Reply)

Can't you nick something?
Or sell a jacket?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:57, Reply)

Eat the jacket.

( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:00, Reply)

It'll taste better if you cover it in beans and cheese though.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:12, Reply)

I've talked myself into a meeting so I can have their sandwiches.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:58, Reply)

Haha, Danny Dire Times.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:59, Reply)

I think I might start drinking green tea again.
You've just reminded me.
( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 12:58, Reply)

I drink it at work
initially so I didn't have to belong to the incredibly petty milk rota mafia.

I've come to prefer it nowadays.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:41, Reply)

I saw that
I was like all OMG all the time
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:04, Reply)

OMG I totally saw you post earlier and thought it was gonz

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:25, Reply)

hahahahhaa

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:31, Reply)

Lovely tuna sushi
And one of those fat mocha coffees from Starbucks. I have the monster bloat right now.

I watch BFGW and am not ashamed. Apart from the bits with the little girls dressed like strippers, it's pretty entertaining. One of the women on last night had to bring a fire extinguisher as an accessory just in case the battery packs in her dress (oh yes) set fire to the miles and miles of nylon tulle that made up the rest of it.
(Charmander, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:10, Reply)

And there was me thinking it was a sequel to Big Fat Greek Wedding
I didn't realise it was a tv show. It sounds like it's at the Jeremy Kyle level of utter shiteness.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:22, Reply)

That's what makes it so brilliant

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:23, Reply)

^ This
And Jeremy Kyle actually performs a key role in society, reminding us that we're pretty fucking amazing compared to the specimens on the show. Instant mood-lifter.
(Charmander, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:33, Reply)

I thank God the tv aerial for the flat is broken

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:35, Reply)

wouldn't the popping candy fizzle out in the jellies?
alt: I saw last years.
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:13, Reply)

Probably but you could put them on the top once they're set.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:14, Reply)

totally just thought of that
do you guys make jelly shots out of actual gelatin?
I tried that once, turned out horribl
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:16, Reply)

We can buy concentrated flavoured jelly cubes
they're a bit like rubber you just dilute them in hot liquid and then cool them again and they reset.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:19, Reply)

whaaaaaaaaaaaat
that's crazy
we make jell-o shots, come in a load of different flavors, add the vodka instead of cold water
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:20, Reply)

HEY WE INVENTED FOOD!

(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:22, Reply)

wut

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:24, Reply)

It was a deliberate xenophobic over reaction to you calling our food crazy.
For comic effect.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:26, Reply)

I meant wow thats cool
I've never seen a concentrated jelly cube
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:38, Reply)

If you reeeeeally want
I can probably post you one. Along with some chocolate that doesn't taste like arse scrapings.
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:55, Reply)

oops, replied down there on accident
I don't really eat them because they make me sick
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:11, Reply)

jelly = jell-o
you crazy foreigner, you
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:35, Reply)

OMG REALLY

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:38, Reply)

We also call "trunks", "boots"
and drive on the correct side of the road.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:39, Reply)

and you call "sweaters" , "jumpers"
and "cookies" , "biscuits"

blah.
blah.
blah.

Jell-o is a brand name.
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:41, Reply)

So's Hoover. And Tannoy.
And probably quite a few other brands we use as the generic names for stuff.

I'm sorry I tried to be helpful. I didn't intend to sound patronising.

In other news: Neighbours time!
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:44, Reply)

The current series is more mental than the last one.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:15, Reply)

I saw the article on the girl with the lit up dress
she looked absolutely ridiculous
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:17, Reply)

Joan of Arc?

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:22, Reply)

something like
that
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:25, Reply)

I hope Kate and Willy choose this route.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:28, Reply)

Kate needs to work hard then on looking like a fat prostitute painted an alluring mahogany colour

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:32, Reply)

What. The. Fuck.
I'm glad I didn't watch it this week, I think - that girl looks like she's exploded.
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:32, Reply)

You'll watch it on 4OD this evening I'll bet.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:32, Reply)

I fucking won't
the whole thing looks revolting, and reading this daily fail article is making me even more angry than the daily fail usually does.
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:36, Reply)

Go on.
It will make you feel superior.
( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:38, Reply)

Haha, my self esteem is not so low
that I need to look at under-educated, under-dressed, under-age girls brainwashed in to a way of life that is fucking ridiculous, quite frankly, to give myself an ego boost.
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:41, Reply)

Well it's just me then.

( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:43, Reply)

Your self esteem shouldn't be that low either
you're ace :)

even if you do have questionable taste in tv programmes...
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:51, Reply)

Racist.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:39, Reply)

it's not as bad as it seems
my mrs made me watch it last week, and I spent the whole time either aghast or laughing hysterically.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:40, Reply)

Jeff and Lampito nagged me in to watching last weeks
I was pretty much the same. I kind of admire their morals, to be honest, but the beliefs and traditions that they hold can mostly fuck off.
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:42, Reply)

and the whole moving onto people's land uninvited and fucking it up
and the non-obeying of laws and such
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:44, Reply)

Well there's a traveller community here who have been given land
They've been here for decades and they're no worse neightbours than the people who live on the housing estate next to them.
So maybe more approved sites would be a good idea. Cheaper than bulding flats for them, flats they don't want.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:00, Reply)

yeah, I'm all for that sort of thing
round here they have a habit of just moving in wherever, fucking it up and fucking off.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:02, Reply)

Every cultures weddings are a bit OTT
it's just a difference in taste.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:45, Reply)

Well it's a celebration
it just doesn't have to be so gaudy, slutty, pink and in generally poor taste. If I were ever to get married - unlikely as I really don't want to - I would want something nice. Not something that cost a lot of money yet looks so fucking cheap and nasty.
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:53, Reply)

It's quite strange really, I wonder if they know why they're being put on TV
Or that people think that their taste is so bad. The brides all seem to be teenagers I think that has a lot to do with it.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:56, Reply)

I suspect they would be just as cheap and slaggy
if the cameras weren't there. It's all an expectation thing I suppose, they grow up seeing all of their friends and siblings and cousins and whatnot get married in these pink poofy monstrousities and think that it's something to aspire to.
Poor fuckers.
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:02, Reply)

Like Chomp said, it's just a difference in taste.
I prefer plain things too. They like gaudy things.
And to them it DOES have to look like that or it's boring and 'cheap' (in their terms).
Leave them to it. It's an entirely different culture.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:03, Reply)

NO!
Burn them all!
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:09, Reply)

Well, exactly.
I love 'them' and 'us' conversations.
Everyone talks such sense when making generalisations ;)
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Burn everyone who I don't like
Or that doesn't directly work to make my life better.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:11, Reply)

it's hard to not to talk in generalisations
particularly if ones experience does nothing to dispell them.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:13, Reply)

My nana got attacked by three dogs from an unauthorised traveller site.
It hasn't made me "universally hate" travellers or gypsies.
People make generalisations like that about women (or men) and get shot down. YOUR experience isn't the whole experience.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:16, Reply)

you cannot deny that if your were to ask many people their opinion on them that the reaction would be "cunts" or similar
I said "fairly universally hated" meaning that most people would say they hate them, not that everyone hates them universally.

I am aware that my experience isn't the whole experience, nor is that of anyone else, but on the whole most people don't put a lot of thought into things and as such are bound to react based on their experience. It's natural.

Frankly, as with most things, I couldn't give a fuck as long as it doesn't affect me or those I hold dear personally.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:22, Reply)

ignoring the lights and such
I think it's pretty cool, all of it, the whole lifestyle
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:40, Reply)

You don't mean that, do you?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:42, Reply)

I do.
Maybe it's because it's the way they've been doing it for centuries, and they stick to it.
I think the dresses are ridiculous, to be honest, but every girl wants to feel like a princess on their big day and if this is what makes them feel that way than good for them.
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:00, Reply)

it may appear that way
but they are broadly uneducated, including basics like reading and writing, they are fairly universally hated over here because a lot of them have a habit of fucking things up.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:47, Reply)

Like those blacks
Sex mad, work-shy and terrified of the cold.
All the men live in hostels together and try to dance with our women.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:04, Reply)

for shame

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:06, Reply)

I don't have a problem with other cultures
it's ours that pisses me off. Most notably, Exeter Uni students.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:08, Reply)

Yeah, our culture is shot.
We don't know when to stop, anything.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:10, Reply)

I think more people should take a leaf out of my cliched cultural book
you don't get much happier than a bearded stoner surfer in a band.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:12, Reply)

that was exactly my reaction
I don't feel I've missed out on anything by not watching it.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:40, Reply)

I like seeing Thelma the dressmaker from the shop near my uncle Tony's 'office'.

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:46, Reply)

Holy fuck
Honestly, if I saw some of those pics on a suspect's computer I'd be very fucking suspicious.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:51, Reply)

It's grim isn't it?
I'm 20 years older than them and I've never got my wiggle on or my bits out quite so extensively.
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:54, Reply)

A few of those pics fall very close to being CAI
"Level 1 - Images depicting erotic posing with no sexual activity" applies when 'provocatively' clothed.
(Not saying those images ARE CAI, just they get close, and out of context I might flag them for review)
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:57, Reply)

you should do
that'd teach the daily fail
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:58, Reply)

I totally have.
Maybe they're more American than British. Or Irish. Or whatever.
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:58, Reply)

And just think, now they're in your cache.
*calls police*
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:58, Reply)

Haha!
It's a fair cop guv.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:59, Reply)

They are certainly a strange mix of old fashioned respect towards the family and women and modern chav culture.
They like to keep their caravans spotless but the campsites always seem to look like rubbish dumps. They think women should be virgins till they marry but let the them dress like strippers from the age of 5.
( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:31, Reply)

They think women should be virgins till they marry but let the them dress like strippers from the age of 5.
Why do you think I wanted you as my Internet wife?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:32, Reply)

Because I'm hot innit.

( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:34, Reply)

Well take your jumper off or open a window.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:35, Reply)

Pfft!

( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:37, Reply)

heh heh heh

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:38, Reply)

As much as it's a jarring sight, at least they're safe
They can go on dancing like all the hooers on Earth, but they don't go out alone so they're minded. It's odd though, to see people accepting babies wriggling away like that.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:49, Reply)

Leftover pizza
Always makes the rest of the office jealous as the nibble on their dry ham rolls.

AltQ: If I want to see smack-thin rat-faced pikeys snogging permatanned shrieking bloaters I will go down the corner shop.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:39, Reply)

I plan on starting to make my own pizzas.
I haz dough recipe and a rolling pin. Woo!
( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:44, Reply)

I used to do my own pizzas
I even made the base (from a mix) once.

But Pizza Pizza make such nice pizzas, it seems a shame to deprive them of my money.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:47, Reply)

I can recommend using a breadmaker to make the dough
also, Jamie Oliver's dough recipe/technique is very good.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:48, Reply)

this

(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:50, Reply)

Meal replacement bar
and a can of diet pepsi. Yum.

Only another three kilos to go...
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:41, Reply)

Are you doing one of them Lighterlife things?

(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:45, Reply)

Yep. I'm in management now though
I have a one-kilo safety zone where I feel happy, but over xmas I went four kilos over the top limit. So far (just replacing two meals with bars) I've lost half of it.

I can't recommend Lighterlife highly enough. It literally changed my life.

How sad did that sound?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:48, Reply)

I did the Cambridge diet which is mroe or less identical
but without the management/therapy bit. My metabolism is so crap that I never went in to ketosis so was just starving all the time!
I'm glad to hear you've had more success with it than I had, though :)
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:50, Reply)

the ketosis part is fine, but that's more of a side-effect (with the associated weight loss)
the main part of the Lighterlife system is the counselling. Even after I hit target, I still go to meetings every week. It really helps to brainstorm with the other girls, and see where we're all at.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:55, Reply)

Yeah, Cambridge was a lot cheaper because there;'s no counselling
I stuck at it for about 6 weeks and lost slightly over half a stone. My willpower is somewhat less than my patience...
(berk, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:59, Reply)

well, it's fine except that it will eventually kill you
swings and roundabouts with spiky death pits, of course.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:25, Reply)

the dead tend to be very good at losing weight

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:26, Reply)

The last time I lost any weight non-deliberately
I lost about a stone in Dec and Jan last year when I couldn't eat because my face was smashed up. I am 100% serious that if I produced a diet called the "take a hockey stick in the face and lose 2 stone" diet there are people out there fuckwitted enough to think the pain is worth it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:31, Reply)

I'm sure you are right
curiously, for the last 6 months or year I have been getting thinner without losing weight and without particularly developing muscle.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:32, Reply)

WITCHCRAFT.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:37, Reply)

I can only assume that is the case
or that my hair and beard are really heavy
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:44, Reply)

How big is a bar?

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:50, Reply)

60g
of pure chewy, raisiny, chocolatey yumminess.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:52, Reply)

Too small. I need bulk.
Which is why I do Slimming World.
It's nice when you find something that suits.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:54, Reply)

To be fair, I never actually feel hungry, so I don't mind
but as you say, find what works for you. I can't tell you how many times I tried WW, but the 'choice' just meant 'free reign to cheat'.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:00, Reply)

"weight loss requires will power shocker!"

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:01, Reply)

^this

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:02, Reply)

I was referring to your free reign to cheat comment
my mrs lost a couple of stone or so on weight watchers really rather quickly.

mind you, I last a couple of stone with no external help whatsoever. and I love food.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:06, Reply)

I follow Slimming World principles and look up the 'syns' on the internet
I've never been to class or bought anything though
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:08, Reply)

how does that one work?
does it follow the sensible principle that if you don't eat loads of shit and exercise regularly then you will lose weight?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:09, Reply)

Nah, you can eat loads of shit, jjust not two types of shit on the same day/meal or something

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:12, Reply)

don't they have carb days and meat days or something?
I never understood that one.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:14, Reply)

Yup.
I don't understand it either, but 5 and a half lb in a fortnight will do nicely for now!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:17, Reply)

impressive!
At that rate you'll be a size zero by the time dj agrees to a wedding date.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:20, Reply)

i'll be dead!

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:31, Reply)

That's because it's a pile of epic horseshit.
Or rather, it works more or less because you can't be bothered to eat too much of one type of thing on one day to actually put on weight. In terms of health or "science" it's bollocks, there's no basis to it, and like Atkins is almost certainly long term harmful.

But hey, anything to cater for those that want to put their fingers in their ears when people explain that the only way to lose weight healthily is to eat less and exercise more.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:19, Reply)

I'm with you
it's worked for me, and the mrs.

From what I learned of Weight Watchers it also promotes the sensible way of doing it, which is why I didn't give my mrs a shoeing when she joined.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:24, Reply)

WW is fine, it's more about the guiding/support/guilt tripping there
There is something up here called Scottish Slimmers which some of my friends swear by, which is similar. Anything which suggests you should eat certain food groups, or colours, or anything like that, is almost certainly arsewater, but of course they (Atkins, Cambridge, that new French one, etc etc) play on the "oh but look you can eat shit loads and nice things too and it'll be EASY" .. people want something for nothing, and you can't have it with this. Not without serious aftereffects.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:29, Reply)

I think they all work to a point
just by getting people to think about what they eat
(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:31, Reply)

that is true
but it is much better, more enjoyable and long-lasting if the behaviour it creates involves eating and exercising healthily rather than a weird combination of foods, or replacing meals with a bar or shake.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:33, Reply)

You don't have to eat a weird combo on Slimming World
It's not much different to WW except you can eat bigger portions. And it works and I'm not unhealthy.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:36, Reply)

good for you :-)

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:44, Reply)

they work in that you lose weight
but dysentery would make you lose weight. What they are is both incredibly unhealthy and mostly unsustainable, because most people that use them are looking for an easy fix for something that requires work and willpower.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:35, Reply)

i'm working like a fucker!
I've laid off the wine and chese, I'm on the exercise bike.
I just can't do that 'points' thing or weigh my portions.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:37, Reply)

I think I've confused what you are actually doing
In my defence, you did say up there you were "separating food groups"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:52, Reply)

I've never done any crazy diets.
Just more exercise and less food. It's the only thing that will work long time.
( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:33, Reply)

good girl

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:34, Reply)

Thank you Vippers.
Would have been nice to lose it quicker but I just can't do faddy diets.
( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:40, Reply)

well played, there.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:42, Reply)

I also never ever weigh myself.
I just judge by how my clothes fit.
( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:47, Reply)

That's how I do it too

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:48, Reply)

I weigh myself on the same day at the same time once a week
and as I mentioned earlier, have not actually lost any significant weight, despite getting noticably thinner...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:53, Reply)

Muscle weighs more than fat, innit
I have noticed that I'm losing weight, so it's making it feel worthwhile.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:54, Reply)

don't think I've particularly gained much muscle though
I suppose I must have

or it could be all that gold that I've been swallowing for safe keeping...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:56, Reply)

+ Nazi
Good man, the banks are shit.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:57, Reply)

I make a pleasant jingling sound when I walk too

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:58, Reply)

gain muscle, lose fat, etc

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:54, Reply)

Oh believe me my son I can put away the pasta!
And of course I have loads of veg and becuase I'm eating less junk I'm more nourished so i'm maybe not eating as much, but I've gpt a big appetite.
And you also have to make sure that you get fibre and calcium and a healthy amount of whichever one you're not eating.
I also exercise. I haven't bought anything, but it's the one 'diet' I've found that doesn't pour scorn on carbs and also keeps me healthy, while helping curb my bad habits.
In theory, they just say you can eat tons of something, because like you say, they know you can't.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:34, Reply)

Yeah, but you could do all that
without "separating" food groups, just by stopping and thinking about what you are eating. separating food groups, without becoming immensely dull, is a bad idea, because you require certain things from meat to help absorb certain things from vegetables and so on. You're trying to short-term "trick" your body like the early stages of Atkins, essentially, and it ain't good for you.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:39, Reply)

it does tell you to have a proper healthy protein portion every day.
Be it meat or the vegetarian equivalent. I do it the way I do it because I ain't fussed on meat so will happily have Quorn or not.
i wouldn't advise anyone to spend money on it, but the few tips I've picked up have worked for me and several of my family members. It's about removing those tiny but over time, dangerous things that you have too much of without thinking. it honestly is a healthy balanced diet, i just do it in my own fucked up way.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:42, Reply)

wait, I'm confused now
I thought you were talking about separating food groups?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:44, Reply)

You just tailor it so that you get the food you like the most.
I think it developed from that separating/food-combinging thing, but it doesn't make you deny any kind. On a carb day you have as many of those as you like, but have only a healthy measured portion of meat/protein and vice-versa. And yes, it's probably a 'trick' but you can do it long term because you ARE still getting the required amounts of the necessary food groups.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:51, Reply)

I'm lost now
so, you're still weighing things, then?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:57, Reply)

interesting
my mrs wants to lose more weight before the wedding. I keep subtly trying to hint to her that we should eat a load less pasta and things like that, but it's not working. I may to come right out and say it.

Another problem is that we eat with friends a lot, which is generally at least two courses of fucking lovely fattening food.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:15, Reply)

I started Lighterlife in april
and lost three and a bit stone by my wedding in August. Since then I've kept the weight off, apart from the fun time I had over xmas.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:18, Reply)

You can eat sheds of pasta on SW
so long as you have low fat sauce and little or no meat on your pasta pig-out day.
It works and I have no idea why.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:18, Reply)

because your body can't process all that pasta before you shit it out
therefore you don't get all the calories. This, and I can't stress this enough - is not a good thing medically.

Plus, how much pasta can you actually eat without a decent sauce? Not that much before you get bored with it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:21, Reply)

You can have sauce.
I make fantastic sauces and always have done.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:38, Reply)

but not with meat?
or, I assume, tomatoes. or any highly calorific vegetables?

I'm not trying to suggest that it won't work. Just that there is a health-related long term price to pay for these diets.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:41, Reply)

No you can have meat, and you can have as many tomatoes as you like.
It doesn't count calories. Fruit and veg are all good.
my sauces are mostly loads of tomato and passata anyway so it's been no great sacrifice.
So if you're a big carnivore, you'd have more meat, and an 'allowed' amount of pasta (still plenty) and if you're a big carb head like me, you'd have a bit of meat in the sauce, enough to meet the daily requirements.
Don't assume then go on a rant. Tomatoes are allowed so nur.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:45, Reply)

it mostly makes you cook your own food
as bought-in sauces etc are packed with salt and sugar that you can't see. When you make it yourself, it's largely free fo those.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:46, Reply)

I'm not assuming here
I was following up on what you said about "not eating two types of thing in the same meal" thing. Obviously I've misunderstood, but pasta and a tomato and meat sauce is protein, carb, sugar, fibre all in one.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I'm saying protein, I mean meat. I told you I don't understand.
And I mean, not big equal amounts rather than NONE in the same meal.
Oh Gordon Bennett, I'm not a rep for Slimming World anyway, but doing their thing has helped me, and improved my skin to boot.
I'm tired now, because I'm malnourished, we'll have to hang up our gloves.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:56, Reply)

it was a little confusing!
things are somewhat clearer though with your latest explanations.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:57, Reply)

I was oversimplifying and being flippant and not understanding the names for things
But I didn't realise I was getting an exam on it!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:59, Reply)

remember where you are ;-)

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 15:00, Reply)

I'm not trying to argue with you, and I've obviously misunderstood the way this works
and fair enough, yours does sound reasonable. I just don't like the way that "nutritionists" get away with peddling harmful shit as diets.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 15:00, Reply)

Yes but some of them
Do help you lose weight
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 15:11, Reply)

Bar? Not shake?
What witchcraft is this?
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:47, Reply)

I know right?
I'm in management, so I get to eat management bars - they have more calories in them, as they're weight maintenance rather than weight loss.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:50, Reply)

My favourite last night was the kid who said "Dat mmmelllow moozic"
She was ace.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:51, Reply)

Lunch was a disaster today
I decided to get a Sub Of the Day, but when I got to Subway, the queue was out the door, and I wasn't too keen on waiting, so I decided I should walk the 15 minutes to the shop, where they've got a cracking deli.

The deli has gone shit. I always get a salad sandwich, with chicken/beef/turkey/corned beef/ham. Usually I'll just get the chicken because it's lovely, and today was no different. However, the chicken has changed from being cut off a carcass in front of you, to the cheap breasts (fnarr) you get - cut price - from Tesco.

I was not impressed, but I didn't eat it til I was back at the office. Woe is me!

I ordered my first graze box yesterday though, woo!

Alt: Nope, I avoid reality TV like that as much as physically possible. Same with soaps.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 13:54, Reply)

Oh awesome, is your initials JC?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:11, Reply)

are they sending him a box of loaves and fishes?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:13, Reply)

pffffffffffffffffffffft

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:15, Reply)

Oddly, that's my middle and surname initials.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 14:20, Reply)

no lunch today
Thanks to being a weakwilled person yesterday. I'll have some green tea though.

As to the gypsy thing, I haven't seen the new one will wait for 4oD. It's a horrible culture though, thank god I wasn't born into it
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 15:08, Reply)

There are worse out there I guess.

( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 15:10, Reply)

this is true
I think I sometimrd forget to be grateful that I was born when and where I was
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 15:13, Reply)