well, the problem you've got there is that they are students and rugby players
first and foremost. And therefore have a mental age of 3. Most rugby players do not behave like that in public.

And they are different from football fans because, in general, they do not start fights with either opposition fans or members of the public because rugby doesn't have the ingrained life or death tribal alliances that football has.

And I didn't say it wasn't bad manners, just that drunken behaviour of that sort is hardly the preserve of rubgy players. I was merely pointing out that a load of drunken cunts vomiting everywhere is a fuck sight less of a problem for me than a load of psychotic cunts punching and stabbing random members of the public because "they look like they support X team"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:13, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

Football fans, in general, don't do that either. And I'm sure all rugby players dont piss all over the pub.
But I don't think any one group is 'better' behaved.
In my experience, I have witnessed both groups being wankers. I live somewhere that has two football teams, and it's not divided geographically or by religion, so that kind of thing doesn't happen where I live, but I know it does elsewhere. I just think anyone's capable of being wankers especially when they're buoyed up by booze and their sport. I wouldn't defend either group, even though the majority are just normal people with a season ticket and a scarf.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:22, Reply)

I've spent a fair amount of time living in East and South London
and now Edinburgh, and spent plenty of time in South Wales . I can categorically state that football fans do, in general, absolutely do that. All the time. Being caught in the middle of a a few hundred Cardiff and Swansea fans going at it is not an experience that I wish to repeat. Or being anywhere near Millwall. Or being on a train in Southern Germany when 1860 fans stormed it to get at Bayern fans. Or running battles in Rome after a Roma/Lazio game. Or anywhere I've been in Eastern Europe, really.

So, yeah, I agree that I won't condone either but in my experience football generates a whole heap higher level of cunt. I know your experince differs of course, I'm just saying why my feelings about it are so strong.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:42, Reply)