I want to encase one of my managers in a wicker man and burn him
He asked me how long it would take to do a case involving a whole bunch of fiddly, time-consuming tasks. I tell him it'll take X hours at the absolute minimum.
He comes back and says that we got the job, we have 1/2 the amount of hours I said it'd take, plus we have to rush it through as an urgent case. It now falls on me to do the damn case, and my protestations are being largely ignored.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 10:49, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

that is pretty much exactly what happens to me with projects I work on.

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 10:51, Reply)

I've told them to make a choice
Either they tell the client they will need to pay more, or they tell them that they won't get as thorough a job. Or my company can just suck up the loss.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 10:54, Reply)

unfortunately in my industry the company has to suck up the loss.
engineering sucks.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 10:54, Reply)

Same here
I'm just making my bosses aware that this manager fucked up, and it's on his head, not mine.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 10:56, Reply)

only thing you can do really.
the difficulty we have is that if we don't put in low proposals we don't get the work, and loss making jobs are better than no jobs.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 10:57, Reply)

Are they, though?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 11:00, Reply)

yes
because if there is no work then our overheads don't get covered at all, whereas if we have some work then they do. To a certain extent.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 11:05, Reply)

That's what this manager thinks
In another example, we were asked to do a particular job, every analyst this manager asked said there's no way we could do it, we don't have the skills, experience or equipment. He quoted a high figure in order to put the client off without saying we can't do the job. The client accepted...
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 11:00, Reply)

that happens here too.
but we can usually wing it. or sub-contract.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 11:05, Reply)

*ignores*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 23 Jun 2011, 10:51, Reply)