I think the question that needs to be asked is why there is mob robbery
the individuals are cunts and need dealing with, yes, but why is this happening now? People have been greedy bastards for ever, so what is it that makes it acceptable in so many people's minds at one time?

Partly it's going to be that other people are doing it (that's a great way for people to assuage guilt - 'if everyone's doing it, it can't be that bad')

I don't know the answer, I doubt the rioters/looters do, but I don't think giving up civil liberties is the answer
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:02, 3 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

the answer is retaliation in the same way
it's no good the authorities doing anything, the people need to rise up and kick the rioters in the collective arse.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:11, Reply)

shall we have colours so we know who's on
which side?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:12, Reply)

So you're suggesting that a full-on street war is the answer?
How is that not going to end in more people being hurt and more buildings being torched?
( Kroney, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:13, Reply)

you are assuming that I mind either of those things happening

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:17, Reply)

That is something of a lynchpin in my argument, yes.

( Kroney, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:18, Reply)

The "why" is down to one of the cornerstones but also one of the main weaknesses of democracy.
They are doing it because they are cunts and because they can.

I forget the source of the quote, but it's something like "in a true democracy a police force would not be able retain control of streets from a population prepared to fight. The trick to a democracy is to never let the populace know this"

Well, they know now. The quote was meant to apply to legitimate protest but it works the same for mindless thugs. Simply, they are doing it because they are getting away with it.

And that's also why curfew and violent military intervention will work. It's wrong and it's horrible but a free telly is less appealing when it might cost you a cracked skull or a broken back. And *bang* we're back in the fucking dark ages.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:12, Reply)

so what made people realise this now, do you think?
or is it just an accident of timing?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:13, Reply)

I don't know
but my gut feeling is that in recent times, any "legitimate" protest, such as the initial Tottenham one at the weekend (or, say, the student marches or cuts marches) are accompanied by a violent, criminal element. In the other two examples the police waded straight in, breaking heads and taking names. This time, I think they were a) unprepared for the numbers involved and b) I think they initally stood off because they were scared of being seen as heavy-handed. And everything spreads so fast now that as soon as a few people get away with looting a shop the world knows about it and the cunt world joins in.

I'm only speculating on this part though.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:17, Reply)

The police should have reacted much more quickly and strongly.
All the last few days have done is shown that they can be overwhelmed far too easily. There was an intelligent element to a lot of these riots. Sure, the majority of them were kids, but in some areas fires were set because they knew it would tie the police up and stop them being able to arrest looters.

I doubt things will carry on for much longer as nine police forces are now sending help.
( Kroney, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:15, Reply)

I'm afraid I cannot get past 'mob robbery' in this post.
My mind insists on reading it in the style of the Knights who say 'Ni'.

^FILM
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:14, Reply)

i liked the sound of it
because it almost rhymed so I kept using it
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:15, Reply)

"and we demand you bring us a mob robbery" ?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:24, Reply)

it sounds like someone drowning

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 11:26, Reply)