Monty I was watching "How Hip Hop changed the World"
on friday night. It was fucking shit. I noticed at least mistake based on my very limited knowledge of hip hop.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:14, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

Isn't your knowledge of hip-hop "it's rubbish"?
In which case, was the mistake you noticed of the "someone saying it's not rubbish" variety?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:16, Reply)

No, I like Public Enemy
and there are quite a few "hip-hop" songs which would feature in my "best playlist for a night out".

It was some idiot talking about the cover of "Walk This Way" by Run DMC without apparently being aware that Aerosmith wrote the entire song, and that it wasn't Run DMC taking a sample from an Aerosmith song and rapping over the top of it.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:18, Reply)

Fucking hell
That really is basic musical knowledge. The way the song is credited to S. Tyler and J. Perry ought to be a fairly singular giveaway
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:20, Reply)

He was talking about the great break that Run DMC had captured
without knowing that that is what is commonly known as a "riff".
(Bazongaloid, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:21, Reply)

The break in Walk This Way is the drum loop at the start of the song.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:23, Reply)

As breaks go it's not brilliant.
It's no 'Tom Sawyer'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:25, Reply)

Who was this dickhead?
And how did the programme elaborate that hip-hop had changed the world, other than convincing a generation of muscular black Americans that sitting on the hood of a flash car with a girl in a bikini is more central to the ethos of rap music than the ability to rap?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:25, Reply)

I'll bet Nelson George was on it.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:27, Reply)

Without Fred Durst I didn't really see the point of the program

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:28, Reply)

I believe that Vanilla Ice was on it.

(Bazongaloid, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:28, Reply)

'repping' the 'true school', no doubt.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:34, Reply)

They were praising Biggie Smalls
and at that point I switched it off.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:28, Reply)

Really?
Oh dear. I believe Monty is about to chip in with the reasons why B.I.G. was an important figure in rap, but I always thought he was absolutely awful.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:30, Reply)

I'm not a fan i have to say
I'm very much enjoying Tech N9ne's new album at present, GANSTA
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:33, Reply)

I saw him live once. He was shite.
He (along with that cunt Combs) is responsible for it becoming acceptable to have some bint singing in your chorus: the death knell for proper hip hop. I hold him personally responsible for the demise of what was once an inventive and clever musical form.

Because he was killed (and for no other reason) people get all 'Kurt Cobain' about him - cf that shitcunt Tupac.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:34, Reply)

We are, for once, in complete and total accord, Mr Boyce
I remember the first time I heard "I'll Be Missing You". If I'd realised then how far hip-hop would fall as a result of Combs building an empire on the back of Wallace' death and the music of others, I might have spent less time laughing at how stupid his name was.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:37, Reply)

I don't like him because he was a cunt.
And I couldn't see anything original or interesting in his music.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:38, Reply)

His one redeeming feature was having the bottle to record a track called 'Cunt Renaissance'.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:40, Reply)

I'm assuming he had help spelling it

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:42, Reply)

That's frightfully poor.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 15 Aug 2011, 11:21, Reply)