yeah science fiction can't have subtexts and allegories

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 10:20, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

I t certainly can.
And in written form, very occasionally in a subtle and clever manner. On mainstream US television, however, I put it to you that such allusions etc have to be trowelled on with all the subtlety of a nuclear bomb to penetrate the mongoloid crania of the target audience.

'Eastenders in space' (c) R. Lyon 2011
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 10:40, Reply)

Whilst your argument holds some merit,
I put it to you that there are those who are more willing to look for such subtext and gain greater enjoyment from a programme through this patience, and there are those with mongoloid crania who are not.

'Sounds well bent' (c) M. Boyce 2011
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 10:45, Reply)

I agree with you both
but would point out that when subtext is barely subtext and allegory, then it's probably not subtle.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 10:46, Reply)

Counter-example: the batman series from the 60s
kids action show if you're a mongoloid, hilarious comedy if you aren't.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 31 Aug 2011, 11:03, Reply)