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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Depends on your definition.
And space and the "universe" are different.
The argument for the universe being infinate is that its self generating so even though there is an edge you can never meet it because just going there pushes it further.
(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:04, 1 reply, 14 years ago)
At which point my head explodes.
Because this feels deeply unsatisfying. What is it expanding into?
(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:05, Reply)
Kittenland

(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:06, Reply)
Now you're just confusing me with your Clayverses and Kittenlands.
I am begining to suspect you are not a real scientist after all.
(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:07, Reply)
I didn't say I was!

(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:14, Reply)
Well don't come in here
with all your white coat and clipboard and ticking things off if you don't want me to think you are a scientist.
(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:15, Reply)
*undresses*

(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:17, Reply)
It's not expanding into anything. It's just expanding.
For anything to exist, there has to be a something. Outside of the universe, there isn't a something, therefore there's no anything.

I appreciate that this won't help much.
(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:08, Reply)
I think I need to go and lay down with a damp towel on my forehead.

(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:10, Reply)
basically space is a circle
if you step out of the circle a man in a pointy hat pokes you back in with a stick
(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:14, Reply)
At least that I understand.

(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:17, Reply)
Just think of it like how Mummy and Daddy used to treat you

(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:20, Reply)
It all kind of rests on whether you can wrap your head around the concept that it's only infinite
to human perception. Like Comrade was saying, if you couldn't look up to see the sky, you could walk on the Earth forever, thinking it was all there was. The only thing that lets us see that the Earth isn't all there is because we can see the sky and the stars and stuff.

We can't see beyond the universe because we can't perceive the stuff beyond it. We can't travel in it and therefore, to us, it's infinite. Or at least so close to infinite given our current science that we can't see the end.
(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:22, Reply)
And I think that's my problem
forcing my brain to accept the concept. It just won't 'stay'. I always think I've understood the theory and then suddenly, BANG! my head just forces it out again to be replaced by something akin to 'Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck'
(, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:28, Reply)

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