Because you have only a very basic understanding of things.
You should listen to Amberl.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:18, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

Look, I've never claimed to be the beating intellect behind the Tory party, but just because I might not be able to argue very well
does not mean there aren't like minded people out there who could do so very well indeed.
(888777555, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:20, Reply)

oh dear.
Listen to yourself:

"I believe something that I don't understand but other people do"

Does that even sound like a valid point of view to defend to you?
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:22, Reply)

So you will hold a view, despite not having an argument in favour of it
and in the face of arguments against it.
(Bazongaloid, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:22, Reply)

Sounds religious to me.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:24, Reply)

And NO, look, I DO understand my views, I have never been given a chance to ever argue them logically.

(888777555, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:26, Reply)

Yes, you have. Right now you have.
And you are really not doing a very good job of it.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:28, Reply)

I am a member of several online forums in which I DO debate reasonably and throughly issues at hand.

(888777555, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:28, Reply)

Are those forums for teenagers and schoolkids?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:32, Reply)

Nope, not all of them.
One of them IS the Student Room, however.
(888777555, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:32, Reply)

That'll explain it.
Older and more intelligent posters on B3ta than the other forums you frequent.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:35, Reply)

That older= wiser is also cheep reasoning, surely?

(888777555, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:47, Reply)

No.
Life experience is valuable.

You will realise this in due course. Older is not necessarily wiser, but maturity engenders wisdom.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:49, Reply)

Alright, thanks for the life advice, I'll remember to keep my mind open and appreciate that
variety of view is the spice of democracy.
Bye.
(888777555, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:52, Reply)

There are some pretty smart teenagers around too you know.
One on forum there is a Privately educated 18 year old Labour Member from Herefordshire. We could not be more different but get on pretty well and respect each others views. He argues very logically and often uses sound philosophical, and provable statistical reasoning.
And if you want an example of some centre to left wingers who I agree with, to show I'm not a total Ideological opinionator, you could do worse than Frank Field, Paddy Ashdowne, Brian Paddick and Gerald Kauffman .
(888777555, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:54, Reply)

Frank Field is not left wing
Who was the second voice behind Nadine Dorriss' anti abortion amendment attempt? You spastic cunt.
(Bazongaloid, Sun 18 Sep 2011, 4:41, Reply)

Yes you have, several times.
You just didn't manage to argue them logically is all.

You've taken an ideological anti-left wing stance but haven't actually explained why aspects of socialism or other left-wing ideas are meritless. All you do is say 'left wing is bad' without arguing as to why that is the case.

I can happily expound why I do not agree with political (or indeed any) conservatism, without resorting to cheap 'Tory = shit' lines of 'reasoning'.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 17 Sep 2011, 18:31, Reply)