That's my argument against deniers basically.
Ok so you might not believe in climate change, but we are wasting a lot of "stuff" and we shouldn't waste so much "stuff" and we're too reliant on other countries for our energy needs so why fight against the green movement.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 7 Oct 2011, 12:18, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Yep
I tried to convince them by comparing their every day lives and how they wouldn't want to wast their money or time, so why wasting anything else... most of them buy food for a family twice the size of their family and end up throwing away a full fridge every week.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Fri 7 Oct 2011, 12:21, Reply)

Their comeback is always
"the economic damage caused by trying to pander to these ignorant people who believe in climate change will be awful for us all"
(Bazongaloid, Fri 7 Oct 2011, 12:21, Reply)

And that's so much not true
Developing countries can't see it yet, because they usually have a lot of raw material, but in Europe and the States, making machinery and factories more efficient means less waste, which means more product/energy saved. The initial cost might be more expensive, but the profits are a lot higher too.

It's like spending money on a car that consumes very little and has almost no emitions. Yes, it's more expensive, but yes, you save a lot on fuel and you recover the money pretty quickly.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Fri 7 Oct 2011, 12:30, Reply)

I usually answer that with "shut up"

(PsychoChomp, Fri 7 Oct 2011, 12:30, Reply)

My answer is better

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Fri 7 Oct 2011, 12:43, Reply)

Shut up

(PsychoChomp, Fri 7 Oct 2011, 12:46, Reply)

:_(

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Fri 7 Oct 2011, 12:48, Reply)