You've got to admire the Koreans acting skills.
I don't think I could pretend to be so upset when put on the spot.
( girlinthehole, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 19:56, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Contorting the face to activate the tear glands.
Oldest trick in the book.
Obviously a huge number of them are honestly distraught as they have been brainwashed to think he was the greatest human ever. But I'd say that a large number of people are dissenters too.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 19:59, Reply)

They're not acting
It's all they know. They're terrified and so would I be.

They might be about to meet Freefair world.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:00, Reply)

No sane human being would not prefer to live as the South Koreans do,
if the choice was between a North Korean and South Korean Life.
So yeah, that's what "FreeFairs" world would be like, great living standards, highly liberated, technologically advanced, globalised and very prosperous.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:05, Reply)

It's straight out of Orwell for me.

( girlinthehole, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:19, Reply)

North Korean life? Sure it is. 1984 is their goal , and Animal Farm is their skill manual.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:24, Reply)

So do you think battery hens envy free range hens?
Battery hens don't know anything better - knock down the hen house walls and they won't know what to do.

What do you think North Koreans really know of the world? They're like a lost society.

I'm not really arguing with you, I'm just pointing out that these are the Albanians of 2012.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:24, Reply)

They might when they see what the rest of the Westernised world does with it.
Assuming their nation modernizes in the same was as China, progressively lurching towards a capitalist, ever more liberal society, they'll come out of this far better than they went in.
If you can do it with 1300 Million people you can do it with 20 Million.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:32, Reply)

Check your sums and your grammar, son.
And NEVER confuse Capitalism and Liberalism, because I'm far cleverer than you and will fuck you over in any dispute you care to engage me in.

x
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:36, Reply)

Be fair, the first paragraph Wikipedia has on Liberalism mentions support for the capitalist based market economy. I know there are liberal forms of socialism but that is the mainstream westernised liberal view.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:42, Reply)

For Liberalism
Start with Hegel and work upwards.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:47, Reply)

I started with Smith, then Mill, then Hayek.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:50, Reply)

So you're working on a frankly slanted perspective to start with.
I'm looking for an idealogical starting point here. A basic philosophy, if you want.

You're looking at economists.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:55, Reply)

Give it up whilst you still have your dignity intact.
I know what TD's capable of and he's more than a match for either of us.
Or indeed both of us.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:49, Reply)

Beautiful blend of aggressive/patronising there mate ;)
And you have the intellect to carry it off too.
That's why I love you so!
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:45, Reply)

I've still got it!
How are you, unpopular pariah?
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:50, Reply)

Still beautifully isolated thanks, just how I likes it ;)
Saves me the effort of being nice.
Gaz on the way...
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 20:54, Reply)

I'm not longer for this world tonight.
The boy seems to have gone.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 19 Dec 2011, 21:00, Reply)

Couldn't stand the heat.
Got out of the kitchen.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 19 Dec 2011, 21:08, Reply)