To quote my friend "I wish politicians today would be more like her, stick up for their principles, whatever they believe, its like we've gone back to the days of the wet toff concencus. She wasn't posh and she came from a working class backround. "
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:36, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

This mate does not exist.,
You're using him to make us love Thatcher, but nobody with any decency and still in possession of their memory can find it in their heart to give a fuck.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:39, Reply)

And we would have to accept the quite frankly ridiculous assertion that freefair has friends.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:41, Reply)

This point must also be considered.

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:42, Reply)

Its because with the exception of my Labour supporting friend, I don't talk politics with anyone else my age.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:46, Reply)

We'd prefer it if you didn't discuss it with us.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:47, Reply)

Could you promise to be nice to me then?
And I won't talk about it on here.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:01, Reply)

Nope.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:04, Reply)

Tony Blair very much stood up for what he believed in.
Balls of steel, that man. I have a lot of admiration for him. He was a good leader as well as having the nuts to make seriously unpopular decisions. Just that he fucked up massively with Iraq, but apart from that, he did a lot of good.

And never launched all out class war and destroyed communities like Thatcher did.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:40, Reply)

I can't stand him either,
Besides, the first load of tuition fees were ok'd under Labour. He's a fuck-you-Jack cunt and all.
He's not an eeeeevil bitch like her though.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:42, Reply)

Um, I was being serious.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:43, Reply)

I know.
I think he betrayed voters like my Grandad.
Her, on the other hand, well, she did exactly what she was supposed to do.
If you're a selfish unfeeling cunt who has two houses, 'family money' and a belief that every vulnerable/poor/unfortunate person deserves their lot in life, then she looked after you good and proper and made sure the needy were suitably punished for their existence.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:46, Reply)

Sorry, I forgot 14.1 Million people were exactly like this "family money" person described.
That's how may voted Tory in 92 ( and 13.8 Million in 87), a number that still stands as a record for any party.
That would include my mother, who was brought up in a state of absolute (yes ,not just relative) poverty in the 60's. She nearly died several times through out her childhood due to having no heating in her council house. She often starved and never got any Christmas presents and new clothes. She failed her 11+ and stared work at 14. They never had a TV, just a wireless+ small record player.
Yeah, she was fucking loaded!
When Thatcher came along, she brought a house, got a car, went on foreign holidays,worked hard, and never struggled again.
Similar for my dad, plus he was an immigrant who barely spoke any English.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:51, Reply)

Major was elected in 92.
Not Thatcher.

And if your mum was Northern and voted Tory then she was an idiot.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:53, Reply)

West Midland.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:54, Reply)

Massive

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:55, Reply)

Still an idiot.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:58, Reply)

I take it she's now a BNP voter.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:06, Reply)

Just doing her bit

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:07, Reply)

Stands to reason.
But she bought a council house. That makes her posh.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:15, Reply)

yeah, not like that riff-raff next door

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:16, Reply)

Yeah, those povvoes not earning enough to rent privately. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY LIVE IN A COUNCIL HOUSE?
Anyway, only scum live in slums.

100% true.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:20, Reply)

And get kennel cough

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:23, Reply)

And fleas.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:23, Reply)

Haha shut up you knob.
Tits like your mother voting for Thatcher because they think it will make them all 'posh', and so they can buy the shitty council house they nearly died in, need shooting.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:54, Reply)

This.
100% this.

Thatcher destroyed northern, Welsh, midland and Scottish communities with her slash and burn economic policies. If your mum voted Tory then she supported that, and she supported exactly the same kind of conditions she was raised in.

Not you Roota. Titboy up there.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:57, Reply)

I hear ya.
Haha Titboy.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:00, Reply)

Blaming Thatcher for the decline of industry is like blaming a nurse for a death
cause she switched off life support. Everything had been done to save it beforehand.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:01, Reply)

No it hadn't.
What the fuck are you talking about?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:03, Reply)

8) Turkey

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:04, Reply)

9) Bernard Matthews
10) Bernard Manning
11) that St Bernard dog off that St Bruno pipe tobacco advert in the eighties.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:05, Reply)

12) Bernard Sumner
13) Bernie Winters (who coincidentally had a St Bernard!)
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:06, Reply)

14) Bernard Barnard, inventor of the 'nearly namesake given name/ surname conflation'.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:08, Reply)

SHIT!

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:09, Reply)

So your story is that your mum happened to reach her early twenties or so in 1979?
Fascinating political insight there.

Thanks.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:02, Reply)

I wish she'd died of the cough

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:05, Reply)

Blimey.
I wish I'd got a job and worked when I was in my early twenties, just like every fucker else.

Correlation =/= causation, as titboy should know.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:06, Reply)

I have to assume that if the nation had carried on as it was.
Her living standards would have been pretty poor.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:06, Reply)

You have a lot of experience in the UK until 1978?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:06, Reply)

Don't make him ask if you remember Hitler.
14) 15) Bernadette Nolan
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:08, Reply)

16) Berne, in Switzerland.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:14, Reply)

17) Barney Rubble

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:15, Reply)

DAMN YOU KROPOTKIN!
Barney the dinosaur.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:16, Reply)

BURNY HOT

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:17, Reply)

Surely not?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:18, Reply)

Fat Burns

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:18, Reply)

Pete Burns

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:19, Reply)

Pete Beale

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:20, Reply)

Reel 2 Real.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:22, Reply)

Zig & Zag

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:25, Reply)

You win.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:27, Reply)

No, he was just a terribly sincere nice guy (i.e. a censorious, dictatorial madman) and a Christian fundamentalist.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:45, Reply)

And he brought in the minimum wage, record investment in the NHS and led Labour to victory three times.
And fucked up re. tuition fees and Iraq. Nowhere near as bad as Thatcher.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:47, Reply)

Also locked the nation into an cycle of wasteful, endless and absolutely pointless wars,
and turned the education system into a bureaucratic exercise where pupils take exams for exams' sake rather than receiving a useful education; a system where privileged pupils can be coached by private tutors into getting straight A*s all the way though and still come out knowing nothing and being about as useful as a glass hammer.

I agree with your point about him not being as bad as Thatcher, but he's got a bloody long charge sheet as far as I'm concerned.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:04, Reply)

But he appeared on the cover of NME.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:07, Reply)

I won't disagree with you there, I had no beef with Mr Blair.
He was as much of a poshboy as Cameron though.
Blair was essentially a pragmatic Tory. It's not his personal fault we're in a mess.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:44, Reply)

David Cameron never appeared on the cover of NME though, did he?
SO THERE!
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 17 Jan 2012, 22:45, Reply)