But if you smear it with a micron-thin veneer of irony or pretend that it is "burlesque" then it magically becomes empowering.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:16, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

serious answer is serious
i think for some women it probably is. the two girls last night were early 20's, both had amazing bodies, and were clearly happy to be marauding round the pub showing them off. but most of my friends, even the ones with spectacular figures, wouldn't do it for anything!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:19, Reply)

in this case, "clearly happy" almost certainly equals "skull-crushingly insecure" you realise?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:21, Reply)

i wouldn't judge them unless i knew them
and why they did it.

i am surprised at you, darling. very shocked and surprised.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:25, Reply)

what, in assuming that a large majority of women that claim that stripping is "empowering"
are actually massively insecure? I thought that was pretty much universally accepted.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:27, Reply)

oh i don't know
i've never really paid any attention to the empowerment thing. to me, if you want to get your kit off, do it. if you want to keep it on, do it.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:28, Reply)

Right. But my question was about what distinguishes those well-to-do girls from the working class girls who've been puckering their twats at punters in seedy pubs for the last fifty years?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:22, Reply)