Then you need to go back and listen to what came before.
Work forwards from Sabbath.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:10, 2 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

And Blue Cheer
And Goatsnake, obvs.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:10, Reply)

Are you saying they are the zenith of metal?
Because Linkin Park have that crown
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:16, Reply)

ICP FOREVER!!!

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:20, Reply)

No, I'm saying that you can trace a path from the first Sabbath LP,
Through bands like those dozer mentioned, plus St Vitus, Earth, etc. to what they are doing.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:23, Reply)

Plus electronic acts like Autechre.
To me, a lot of what Sunn O))) do is about texture and mood, and closer to shit like SAW2 way more than metal.

Sunn O))) are arty, witty, committed and serious. I think this is what goes over the Ape's head.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:26, Reply)

Still boring

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:34, Reply)

Go and see them live.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:35, Reply)

Not in the least bit boring.
Boring is shite like the fucking Foo Fighters.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 22:36, Reply)