I know, it's a real terms pay cut which is pretty significant.
That's why everyone I know with any sense in the NHS is doing all they can to move up or ship out.

The best thing they could do for the public sector would be remove the barriers from leaving for a couple of years and coming back. I think people like me and others should be flitting between public and private sector as much as possible. but it's fucking stupid how much that'll cost you on your pension alone.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 21 Mar 2013, 11:52, 2 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

No, you're thinking of the 1% cap, which is a cunt, but understandable if not really justifiable.
The removal of progression pay will make it impossible to get a pay rise for being good at your job. At all. So you're left with a job that pays you the same whether you are good or shite. And that amount is pathetically poor compared to equivalent workload, responsibility and skill levels in the private sector. And they are trying to streamline the public sector.

So who's going to leave? those with ability, the people you really need to make these departments work better and more efficiently? Or those who can't fucking find their arse with both hands? It doesn't take a genius to see how rapidly this is all going to be totally fucked into a cocked hat.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 21 Mar 2013, 11:57, Reply)

They say they're only stopping automatic pay progression. Not performance related progression...
I'll have to look into it more.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 21 Mar 2013, 12:06, Reply)

There is no automatic pay progression in the public sector
check your contract. It's all technically performance related.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 21 Mar 2013, 12:13, Reply)

yeahhh buuuuuttt, it's basically automatic.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 21 Mar 2013, 12:16, Reply)

basically, yes it is.
But if they tinker with that it will do one of two things - nothing at all, or mean that no-one ever gets a pay rise. There is no possible middle ground on this because of the way the system works. The system itself and the attitudes surrounding it needs reforming. Not the pay practice. And if you want a better, more streamlined public sector, you don't cut pay. You increase pay and then get rid of those who underperform. Given that's how any fucking half decent company works it's beyond belief that the Tories can't grasp that.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 21 Mar 2013, 12:20, Reply)

Could they put in 24 month contracts like the mobile phone companies?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 21 Mar 2013, 12:07, Reply)