Oh my god, your grandparents worked between the ages of 21-65?
That's fucking unbelievable! They must be totally unique amongst people!

And you've also not helped your argument by saying that your other grandparents, who couldn't afford a house, were the ones with physically demanding jobs. This implies that the ones that could afford a house weren't actually working as "hard" as they could otherwise done.

I get up every day and go to work. Until we had the baby, so did my wife. We both put in long hours, and we're both incredibly lucky, we're both university educated (the time at which was paid for by our parents) and have jobs that pay way, way above the national average. And even then, we still needed help from my parents to get a mortgage on a small house on the edge of London.

The reason being that there aren't anything like enough houses in the country, and those that do exist have been treated as an investment which has artificially inflated their costs to unsustainable levels.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 29 Jul 2013, 15:11, 1 reply, 12 years ago)

why should physically demanding jobs be harder than brain demanding jobs?
i do like to wind you up, but i genuinely don't understand that one. grandma a worked in a mill. grandma b was a teacher. both are fucking hard work. have you ever seen how much time teachers spend planning lessons, assemblies, school trips, marking work, exams, government regulations, staff meetings etc? why denigrate that, just because it's not physical labour?

so are you saying there are too many people in the country? that's very DM of you...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 29 Jul 2013, 15:20, Reply)

I'm clearly saying there aren't enough houses.
So build more of them. We don't need less people unless they want to go somewhere else.

And you are having a laugh if you think that teachers 50 years ago spent as much time planning lessons and following government regulations as they do now. Teaching is a rewarding job, but it's harder now than it has ever been in the past.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 29 Jul 2013, 15:29, Reply)

i think you'll find that you MOST DEFINITELY said
go home brown people, you smell.

you should be ashamed of yourself.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 29 Jul 2013, 15:34, Reply)