I'm going to bed.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:23, 2 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

*inserts* out off
+Eventually

^Lazy workshy Placid^
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:25, Reply)

Not sticking around for more CAR CHAT?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:25, Reply)

I heard, and it's not definite, but I heard that CABLE CHAT is coming up after 4pm.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:26, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post2063324
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:27, Reply)

I'm going home.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:27, Reply)

Virgin or two or more wires running side by side and bonded, twisted, or braided together to form a single assembly?
(Phudbree oh man, the Doric Yorick, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:28, Reply)

que?

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:29, Reply)

I'm trying to find out if it's TV related or bonded wires. Though come to think of it, I don't give a fuck, really.
(Phudbree oh man, the Doric Yorick, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:32, Reply)

This is the cable that i currently use and primarily recommend. Its very sturdy and stylish with its flat design which keeps it from getting tangled. A few clicks and pops here and there until it gets broken in but is well worth it after a few days.
www.amazon.com/Griffin-GC17103-Auxiliary-Audio-Cable/dp/B003CK70VC/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b
I know youve heard that monster is pretty good which it is but really depends on what you use it for.
www.amazon.com/Monster-iCable-Player-Auxiliary-Input/dp/B002AR5XIK/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b
This is also a nice cable that i owned and used for about half a year before the wire started to fray near the connectors. Never faltered on quality but i felt like it was going to rip if i pulled on it, i still keep it in my glovebox as a backup but i havent had to switch back yet so...
THE BOTTOM LINE:
Monster is a great audio production company but i think its become too socialized. Griffin is just as good if not better just not as popular.
Good luck
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:35, Reply)

I don't believe for a second that cable needs to be broken in.

( Peej, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:37, Reply)

YM didn't need to be broken in.
(Phudbree oh man, the Doric Yorick, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:38, Reply)

well of course not

( Peej, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:39, Reply)

t's just AUX cable doesn't matter which one is batter, not like anything else. as long as works it should be good, go to amazon check it out.
this is the cable I use www.amazon.com/Cables-Unlimited-A… never failed me.
if you like you can also go with this cable www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-Stereo… is a batter quality cable more like griffin brand quality. but it'll going to do the same job as the first one. they even sell it at Wol-Mart
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:38, Reply)

unbroken cables are wild, man
they buck and throw the music off until you break their spirit.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:39, Reply)

Nakers'll be furious he's missing this.
(Phudbree oh man, the Doric Yorick, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:39, Reply)

Do not use cat5 wiring. Yes it will transmit the sound but the wires gage is too small.
It is also solid core wiring. Solidcore wiring is not the best for speakers.
Use a good quality oxygen free copper speaker cable around 16 gage up to 50 ft.
If you have 100 watts/channel or more you should use a 14 gage wire. If you are over 150watts/channel use 12 gage. Remember the wire gets bigger as the gage goes lower.12 gage wire is thicker then 18 gage wire.
I personally like the Moster XP brand of speaker cable. it is not that expensive. Sometimes moster cable can be overpriced but not so much in the case of this wire.
It is very flexible and will layout nice on the floor. I have purchased wire in the past that was similarly priced and it was garbage.
The 20% rule stated above is indeed whack as I would have been spending $2,400 on speaker cables. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
About a $1 to $2 per foot is resonable. You will get a more than adequate wire for that price. That is about what the Monster XP cable I use costs. But copper is expensive now so the cost may be higher.
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:40, Reply)

12 gauge is a shotgun.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:42, Reply)

You need a spool of in-wall rated 12 ga, or 4-conductor 16 ga wire. Try www.partsexpress.com.

You want a CL2 or CL3 rating as this is fire-code in many areas.

Do NOT spend $$$ for high-end copper. Good oxygen free wire is all you need for movie soundtracks and the 12 ga will work fine for the long runs.

Run the wires zig-zag between the studs with insulated staples pounded in half-way. If you ever need slack in the future - tug to pop the first staple.

Run the wires through plastic electrical outlet box's. Pull enough wire to create a un-broken run from the amp to the speakers. Later you can install Decora wall-plates with binding posts, but to start - just buy blank wall-plates and drill holes to thread the wires through. This is cheaper, simpler and frankly better than binding-posts in wall plates.

Run CATV coax to the corner of the 2 longest un-broken walls. This will be your subwoofer cable.

Run Cat-6 network cable to behind where your rack is. You can install a small $49 switch to send internet to your devices. Wireless is fine - but wired is faster and better.

Run telephone wire to behind where your rack is. Cable and Sat box's often want this so you can order pay-per-view movies and shows.

Label, label, LABEL:

Go to Radio Shack and get some of those Wire Labels with the clear tape that wraps around the white label. Do a simple "A", "B", "C" label on both ends of the wire. Repeat the labels every foot or so as the wires emerge from the walls and a foot or two into the walls (in case you tug to pull slack).

OPTIONAL:

At the back of the room - put an AC outlet on the ceiling for a projector. You can run a long HDMI cable up there or run some plastic conduit with a fish-rope to pull a cable through later. Try www.bluejeanscables.com for good, long HDMI cables that will survive the trip.

This is cheap to do now - expensive to do later.

Hope this helps.
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:43, Reply)

I dunno mate, I use Van Damme Studio Grade.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:48, Reply)

I bet that splits easily

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:50, Reply)

I just use 2 core mains cable

( Peej, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:42, Reply)

He will catch us with us in 30M(ins)

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:42, Reply)

Get some 16 gauge speaker wire. If you are going more than say 40 feet go with 14 gauge. DONT BUY NAME BRAND CABLE!!! It is BS. Google it and you will find scientific tests showing there is no audible diference between a 50 cent a foot wire and a 3 dollar a foot cable. As long as you use a low enough gauge wire you will not lose any sound quality.

BTW if you use cat5 it will probably catch on fire so unless you hate your house don't use that.
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:42, Reply)

*Rubs hands together*
I love me a bit of Vince chat
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Wed 28 Aug 2013, 15:28, Reply)