What next though?
Captain? Other than Bell and I doubt he'd do it who has the stance and presence to replace Cook?
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 20:40, 1 reply, 12 years ago)

I think cook will be a good captain in time, the team hasn't got enough grafters to grind out some runs since trott went home.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 20:43, Reply)

I don't think he will, now
If you want a captain now - bookmark this - its Bresnan.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 20:47, Reply)

Really?

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 20:48, Reply)

Yes
He's got the intelligence, the attitude and the authority to do it.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 20:51, Reply)

I wouldn't have even considered him.
I'd go with Prior if he was getting runs, he's the only one with enough experience bar Bell, and Pietersen, and we know what happened there. Bowling captains never seem to sit right with me.
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 20:54, Reply)

I'm not saying tomorrow and I know what you're saying about bowling captains
Next shout will be Bell who can't do it, Prior could but he's not got much left in him.

Or you do it daft and give it to Root. How old was Lillee when the convicts made him Boss man?
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:00, Reply)

I don't reckon bell would be any good either, but they will probably would go with him next. They will stick with cook though
A 'young' captain might be good, but there isn't really anyone who has cemented their place in the team.
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:05, Reply)

Bresnan

( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:05, Reply)

I think because they rely on his batting a bit too, it may be a big ask of him.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:08, Reply)

Who else then?

( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:22, Reply)

I'm at a loss

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:25, Reply)

Another few years at the arse end, I reckon
Takes the expectations off and makes you not feel too bad when you loose to Bangladesh.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:29, Reply)

Well, it's been a wild ride seeing England be good for a change, but normal service must resume eventually.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:31, Reply)

I've been doing this since 1985 - first test I went to
Love it or hate it, it's infectious and other than US History I've no bigger obsession.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:35, Reply)

Agreed.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:37, Reply)

Allo Froggo.
Dunno why we have to do this 'grinding out'
Talented batsmen like Carberry and Root at the crease for 60 balls and three runs is unnatural and hasn't worked once in the series. Pietersen at the other end being a egotistical twat is out for 3 in 3 balls.
Fuckin bat like good batsmen, get in, score, then stay in.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Mon 30 Dec 2013, 20:54, Reply)

Depends on the situation though ed, needs a reliable batter like trott and collingwood for when someone needs to get stuck in and steady an innings.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 20:57, Reply)

I know but your top order should all be capable of getting stuck in.
I think the Oz taught them you have to have character as well as skill.
They did look scared out there.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:02, Reply)

They were terrified
You mentioned Collingwood and maybe that's what we need - someone who can play but doesn't do the KP stunt shots.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:04, Reply)

KP's occasional brilliance does not outweigh his poor shots getting out for next to nothing enough to warrant a place in the team IMO.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:10, Reply)

Don't forget most of these guys won the ashes very recently.
I think the Oz did a Fergie brain mess job on them and once under their skin, stayed there.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:12, Reply)

It wasn't what you'd call a convincing win though
You're probably right in that complacency has been a major element in this shambles.
( The Disappointed Caravanner of the year, Mon 30 Dec 2013, 21:20, Reply)