A friend of mine maintains that parents have very little to do with a child's behaviour
And that children learn from other children, not authority figures.

My name comes from my being a fan of rock band New Model Army, who have a song called Vagabonds.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 12 Feb 2014, 8:44, 2 replies, latest was 11 years ago)

Saw them a good while back.
'Vengeance'lp?
(DBT became a fruitarian on, Wed 12 Feb 2014, 8:46, Reply)

Quite a while back, then - 30 years ish.
I saw them in November - they're being celebrated for a late-career return to form.

I've rarely seen them anything but excellent - tight, controlled and powerful. They're a very good band.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 12 Feb 2014, 9:00, Reply)

They pretty much raise themselves nowadays, what with television and the internet

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 12 Feb 2014, 8:47, Reply)

Precisely this.
I like the people who decry televisions as surrogate nannies, and then stick 2yo Jocasta on the iPad the moment the alarm goes off in the morning.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 12 Feb 2014, 9:01, Reply)