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(I helped save b3ta! rob, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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what about without the last 2 points?

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 19 Feb 2014, 14:26, 1 reply, 12 years ago)
Then it's not about the morality but the consequences to yourself

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 19 Feb 2014, 14:27, Reply)
isnt that an aspect of morality though

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 19 Feb 2014, 14:28, Reply)
No

(I helped save b3ta! Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 19 Feb 2014, 14:29, Reply)
really, surely cause and effect are the main driving forces behind morality
everything that humans have become has an element of self serving behaviour
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 19 Feb 2014, 14:34, Reply)

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