Sympathising with the motives is very different to believing that what they did was justifiable.

( Muns, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 13:49, 2 replies, latest was 10 years ago)

Typical Muzza

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 13:50, Reply)

Ok how about the other question:
do you agree or disagree with the following statement?
"Acts of violence against those who publish images of the Prophet Mohammad can never be justified"

Agree: (684) 68%
Disagree: (244) 24%

So yes it is very different, 3% different.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 13:53, Reply)

That's acts of violence, not cold blooded murder.
If they asked specifically if the acts carried out by the killers were justified in their entirety, you'd be looking at a much smaller percentage.
( Muns, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 13:56, Reply)

Yes, also if you asked them if they were going to join ISIS within the next 10 minutes you'd see a smaller percentage.
I don't see how changing the wording or context of these questions changes the fact that a high level of muslims surveyed gave answers which I (correctly) think are morally shitty.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 14:05, Reply)

The phrasing of a question and the context that you ask it in will make a great deal of difference to the outcomes.
You can get people to agree to anything, as long as you ask the question in the right way.
( Muns, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 14:10, Reply)

Yes and that was phrased in a perfectly normal way following questionaire design best practices.
Still 24% of people asked a neutral question about violence in response to a religious insult can justify it. Too high, so there's something wrong with British Islam. I'm not saying that Islam is wrong, or they don't have justifiable grievances with society, I am saying that everyone should look at this and go, "fuck" rather than ignoring it out of misplaced respect for their culture/religion.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 14:15, Reply)

Plenty of people from all walks of life have lines which if crossed they would feel violence was justifiable, governments, for example.
I personally have no misplaced respect for any religions and think that going "fuck" is often a perfectly valid response to all manner of abhorrent views.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 14:25, Reply)

You could easily find other groups that would give answers which you would think are morally shitty.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 14:12, Reply)

I know, I think the majority still believe in capital punishment.
That's logically irrelevant as it has no impact on this poll.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 14:17, Reply)

No direct impact, no, but it perhaps puts it in a perspective along the lines of "British Muslims probably as shitty as the general population"

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 14:22, Reply)

I think the key word in the question there is 'never' and it should be taken in the context of the responses to the other questions.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 13:57, Reply)