Aaaghghgnhnhnhnhngngngh
*facepalms*
*headbutts desk*

How the fuck could I forget Tom Waits? We've even discussed him quite a lot on here recently!

Rain Dogs, Swordfishtrombone and the Bone Machine are my favourites I think.

Good shout on the Doors as well. I may be the only person in the world that prefers LA Woman to the eponymous debut. Jim Morrison was a prick but that doesn't matter when you write songs like the Changeling (of course having Ray Manzarek on Hammond helps slightly)

Honourable mention to the Dead as well...

Aargh! I am going to have a spliff and a proper think (I am at home now) and try and remember all the good things that I've forgotten and we need to talk about.

V - no need to apologise, debates are what make things like this interesting! I'm not gonna apologise for my opinion either... I just hate bands whose every song sounds identical.

And (whispered, in case someone hears me) Don't Stop Moving is a shining example of pop production. I hate the tune but it's superbly executed, canny argue with that.

Re. the Beatles, I like the white album and Rubber Soul best. You can't deny their influence even if you don't like their actual songs though, they have to be judged in the context of the times. Obviously Zappa, Sun Ra, Stockhausen et al were doing much more interesting things in 1965 or 66, but they didn't have a fraction of a fraction of the audience of the Beatles. They really helped prepare the popular music ground for a lot of the British white blues that came along afterwards.
(Son of Sam-i-am We're all as mad as hatters here, Tue 20 Jan 2009, 17:03, Reply)