I would be willing to bet a whole pint of beer
that on a blind test, you couldn't.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 13:38, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

It depends on the track
but generally if there's any tinny sounds like hats or cymbals I'll spot it in an instant. They always sound slightly bubbly and vary in tone. But yeah, that bet is on if I ever make it to a bash.

I went so far as to delete all the 128k mp3s I had - about eight gig - a couple of years ago because the compression bugged the fuck out of me.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 13:44, Reply)

I always use v2 VBR
because I'm a snob, and I would always download a 320kbps, or even better FLAC, in preference to 128kbps, but the difference is so infinitesimally small that you can't hear it in most contexts you would normally listen to music.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 13:47, Reply)

I like the scratches and bumps on vinyl.
Every hiccup is a memory.
( girlinthehole, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 13:51, Reply)

I like scratching your bumps.
Every time you hiccuped imprinted on my memory.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 13:54, Reply)

and the large sleeves for LPs
meant some beautiful artwork that really complemented (and in some cases enhanced) the music therein was created. Even the old paper sleeves of vintage 45s are evocative - you're holding a historical artifact in your hand, and a shitty listing on a computer screen will never, ever be the same to me.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:00, Reply)

this is why my mate and I wanted to get our project onto vinyl when we are done
so we have a great big record sleeve. It's prohibitively expensive though.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:08, Reply)

You should see
(if you haven't already) the reissue packaging for the Pink Fairies' Never Neverland LP. Sumptuous doesn't come close - it's fucking gorgeous. (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=72828)

Inserts, printed plastic outer bag....the only record I have that comes close is the Glastonbury Fayre box set(http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=43881)
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:16, Reply)

nice
the idea we are toying with now is making CDs of our stuff, and just sticking them in an LP size sleeve, for comedy effect. and also because the cover here will look great :-)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:20, Reply)

I agree - that's the best compromise
It would be funny but also will enhance the impact of your product. Great design you have there. Kind of heraldic.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:27, Reply)

that was the look we were going for
I was thinking it'd be good to have the CD as part of an LP-sized piece, so you could press out the middle and play it in a CD player
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:33, Reply)

Excellent idea
I have a Fuzztones DVD that's done up to look like a vinyl 7" - that's also quite a neat touch, I thought.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:39, Reply)

yeah, I've seen something like that before
it is quite cool

we'd only need a few copies of the thing I'm on about, not sure if it's the sort of thing that would find commercial success. it's a bit of a self-indulgent sampler of different styles and a lot of odd synth noises.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:40, Reply)

you can get a small number of test pressings done
for not too much, I think.

I'll buy one off you. There you go - you've made a sale already.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:57, Reply)

it still costs quite a bit to get the master vinyl set up
unless we go down the CD route, in which case I'd probably just burn them myself. Had reasonable success with high quality audio stuff recently in preparation for the CD we are getting made.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 14:58, Reply)

It's possible
I could get that done for nothing actually
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 15:04, Reply)

then I may come knocking on your door (so to speak)
once we've finished and if it seems worthy
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 15:05, Reply)

No problem

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 15:09, Reply)

It also depends on the compression algorithm
Some MP3 encoders are better than others.

Most of the modern ones produce 128kbps files which I find acceptable, if not perfect. Anything less than that and the compression becomes annoying.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 13:59, Reply)