someone made an interesting point on here yesterday
and that was that sony get the money for Rage just as surely as they get the money from X Factor.

haven't checked to see if that is true, but it kind of spoiled it for me.

also, I checked the itunes chart yesterday, and Killing in the name was conspicuously absent
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:28, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Yeah both singles ultimately are owned by Sony

but RATM said they would donate the profits to Shelter.

It's not really about money anyway, it's about some kind of musical integrity, I wouldn't mind so much if Joe was any good, but he's not, he's decidedly average.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:31, Reply)

he really is average
some of the other finalists had some personality at least, but he is just another singer with the same sort of voice doing the same sort of songs, which is the last thing we need.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:34, Reply)

Both tunes are on Sony
and RATM are second on the iTunes UK chart.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:32, Reply)

Can't see it at all in the top ten...

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:33, Reply)

nor me

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:34, Reply)

Oh, dodgy site, apparently from some feed somewhere.
www.doipod.com/itunes-chart/
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:43, Reply)

They are 1st on Play.com with the album version
and third with the single, this could ruin it's chances or will they conglomerate?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:44, Reply)

you're looking at last weeks chart not the live chart.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:44, Reply)

fair enough

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:47, Reply)

it's number 1 on amazon
www.amazon.co.uk/MP3-Music-Download/b/ref=sa_menu_dm1?ie=UTF8&node=77197031&pf_rd_p=218610391&pf_rd_s=left-nav-1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=468294&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=1QFPEZ4Q5J6GCCTPGP84
(PsychoChomp, Tue 15 Dec 2009, 11:49, Reply)