Tech thread (with full apologies for its rather esoteric nature)
Anyone here have any experience with wiring guitars and/or modding pickups? Basically I'm looking at attempting the Out-of-Phase setup, aka The Peter Green Mod.

I've seen it demonstrated on a couple of nice Les Pauls (courtesy youtoob) and it sounds chuffing lovely - sound is achieved by setting up one pickup out of phase with the other. I'm just wondering whether it's worth attempting it on my cheap SG copy, and if so, whether I should just swap the wires over or go the whole hog and flip the magnet.
_{I know there are lots of Les Paul forums I could ask, but I fear being snubbed for not owning a Gibson LP.}
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 13:45, 18 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Gaz this guy
www.b3ta.com/users/profile.php?id=47702

He rennovates guitars and amps and stuff in his spare time.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 13:48, Reply)

Ooh, ta!
Will do
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 13:49, Reply)

Track down the book
"Guitar electronics for musicians". I did just what you want to do and more when I was 15 (with radioshack kit wires and sellotape on a knackered Encore) with that book. Don't think you need to flip the magnet btw.

link: www.amazon.co.uk/Guitar-Electronics-Musicians-Reference/dp/0711902321/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265810372&sr=8-2
(Fancy a weekend on my Raymondo Luxury Yacht?, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 13:58, Reply)

Re Magnet
This is what I think - surely just swapping the wires would achieve the same thing? I just spotted a comment on one LP forum which said it would give you a thin, nasal tone rather than the hollow, woody tone I was after...but as long as I don't short the pickup, I can't see how swapping the wires round is different (electronically) to flipping the magnet.

That book looks incredibly useful btw
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:12, Reply)

Yeah, that was my thinking
Don't think positive/negative ends of a magnet have any effect on tone, just the relationship with other magnets and whether wired in series/parallel etc.
(Fancy a weekend on my Raymondo Luxury Yacht?, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:14, Reply)

I have Rock Band on my iPhone
Trufacts
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:06, Reply)

You're just like my sister*...
She upgraded to an iPhone recently and gave me her old Samsung as a hand-me-down. Then delighted in showing me the triumph of modern microtechnology that was the iPhone.

And what part of this remarkable feat of touch-sensitised miniaturisation did she most want to show me?
The Snowglobe app.
*_{NB This is not a bad thing}
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:10, Reply)

Hehe I don’t have that app.
I did buy Broken Sword on it the other day though – completed it too, took me back to my school days, playing Broken Sword around a friends house.
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:36, Reply)

get the special edition
of the Secret of Monkey Island.

it's awesome
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:43, Reply)

Is that an app too?
I never played the Monkey Island game before!?
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:54, Reply)

is it remiss of me
that as a guitarist with many years playing under my belt, and a number of nice guitars and amps, that I neither know, nor care, how to do things like that?

I bought my strat and my ibanez because they sound fucking awesome without pissing about with them.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:12, Reply)

No, arguably you did the sensible thing
And invested in good quality guitars. I wouldn't say modding my Vintage SG is turd-polishing, but I'm trying to get the best I can out of a fairly cheap guitar.

But then I have only just bought myself a resonator, so the idea of forking out for a Gibson is a bit silly at the moment.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:15, Reply)

that's fair enough
The Vintage stuff isn't too bad. I've got a Vintage Stingray copy bass, and it is absolutely superb. Not quite as good as my mates real Stingray, but it cost me 1/16th of the price.

What resonator have you got? Singer in my band just bought one. It's lovely.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:18, Reply)

Ozark 3515-E
Still at the cheaper end of the scale, but I've been really impressed with it so far. They set it up for me in the shop with a nice set of .13s, and with a glass slide against it, I can actually believe that one of these days I'll be able to sound like Son House or Bukka White. Also has a pickup built-in already in case I ever need to make it any louder.
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:23, Reply)

that looks really fucking nice
we've had a lot of success just using a mike in front of my mates one.

www.recordingking.com/resonators_rm991.html
that's what my mate has. Sounds lovely, and looks like it has the Transformers logo on it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:28, Reply)

That's absolutely beautiful
And thanks to this sub-thread, I am now going to save up for a resonator.
Well done.
(TheColonel, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 15:28, Reply)

16 years here
And no idea about the electrical stuff.

AA's housemate is supposed to be fixing the electrics in my Epiphone but seems to be taking his time.

I really, really want an SG!
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:16, Reply)

Nah
it's a right pain fiddling around under the scratchplate, and you probably wont improve the tone, just make it sound a bit weirder.

And probably everyone here is a better guitarist than me.
(Fancy a weekend on my Raymondo Luxury Yacht?, Wed 10 Feb 2010, 14:17, Reply)