there's too much of a blurring of general and specific going on here
I'm sure we can all agree that women have the choice and the right to act how they see fit, which is great.

However, on the whole, it'd be better if people like Beth Ditto didn't exercise that right by being absolutely fucking vile.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 26 Mar 2010, 14:00, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

Women didn't get to have the freedoms we have now by being namby pamby wallflowers.
She is an extreme but as I said before, we need extremes to push the bounderies of what is acceptable for women. Some guys today would balk at how female B3tans talk on here.
( girlinthehole, Fri 26 Mar 2010, 14:06, Reply)

that does make sense
it's unfortunate, but true.

think you are right about the b3tans too!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 26 Mar 2010, 14:09, Reply)