For an interesting perspective:
www.amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/

(Number 44 is the bane of my fucking life.)

Feminism has gone through a number of movements since its inception. I am troubled by the fact that people see it as a dirty word. I want to live in a society that gives men and women the same chances in life. I have no problem whatsoever with the label. I'm saddened that people still think in stereotypes. For me, third wave feminism is a valid and worthy philosophy.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 9:07, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

does number 44 happen to a lot of women a lot of the time?
I have never seen or heard of it as far as I know
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 9:32, Reply)

Can only speak from my own experience but it's happened to me a lot.
I've yet to meet a bloke who's been on the receiving end.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 9:35, Reply)

if it happened to blokes it would surely have happened to me
as my relaxed expression is apparently one of anger.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 9:41, Reply)

I've had it a few times
I imagine the reason women get it more than men is because 'chirpy' cunts who say that sort of thing rightly assume a grumpy woman is less likely to chin them for saying it. It's hardly a reason to boo hoo about it on the fucking internet and has precisely sod-all with patriarchal oppression.

*punches a woman*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:06, Reply)

The point:
It's somewhere over there and you're missing it.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:15, Reply)

I think the point is that Monty looks like a grumpy woman
to the man on the street.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:19, Reply)

As far as I can see
the point that's being attempted to make is that being told to 'smile' in the street by idiots is JUST ANOTHER WAY BY WHICH MEN KEEP WOMEN DOWN.

My point is 'no it fucking isn't'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:24, Reply)

I'm sure you actually realise this, but what they are getting at is that it's a symptom of it
that the men who do this assume that because it is a women that they are allowed to say things like that.

I'd expect to be told where to stick it
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:34, Reply)

I disagree
I think the kind of men who come out with that kind of embarrasing shit would say it to anyone they thought they could get away with saying it to. I'd bet they'd say it to a boy or an old man as well.

There's a huge difference between 'cheer up, it might never happen!' which is just fucking annoying, and the leering builders shouting 'phwooar, 'ello darlin' off scaffolding at passing women. The former is just stupid, the latter genuinely offensive to women.

Let's face it with my current sig I really should leave this thread.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:45, Reply)

I file all that sort of stuff under "most people are stupid dickheads"
it's working well for me so far
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:52, Reply)

No, the point is that women are treated differently on the basis of their sex.
Being told to 'smile' on the street is merely an example of that.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:34, Reply)