This is what a lot of guys don't understand.
46. I have the privilege of being unaware of my male privilege.
( girlinthehole, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 9:42, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

I can only speak for myself
but as far as I am can tell I never see any evidence of most of those things, and so why would I be aware of my male privilege?

being unaware of something of which you have little or no experience or evidence is hardly a crime.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 9:46, Reply)

I'm sure you're unaware of a lot of things women put up with in the same way we are unaware of a lot of things black people put up with.
Doesn't mean it's not valid.
( girlinthehole, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 9:52, Reply)

I know it doesn't mean it's not valid
I was explaining why the thing you quoted might be. in my case at least.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 9:56, Reply)

Then look into it.

( girlinthehole, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:02, Reply)

this might make me come across as an arse, but why?
it has very little bearing on my life. All of the woman in my life are happily unaffected.

My mrs has a good, well-paid job in a very traditionally male profession. There are more than 50% women in my office, on comparable pay, in an engineering company, most of the top roles are held by women.

Of my friends, pretty much all of the women are doing jobs which they got by being good at them, and wanting to do them.

Many of them choose not to wear makeup and such when they don't want to.

I, and they, are lucky. I know that, before it gets pointed out.

I also know that there is a lot more too it than what I've said.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:09, Reply)

I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that I'm not arguing against feminism here
the fact that it even needs to exist baffles me, along with many other things.

as far as I'm concerned men and women are capable of the same things, and it's the person rather than the sex that determines what they are good at or not.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:16, Reply)

What about all the women who aren't as lucky as those close to you.
Don't you get angry that they don't have the same equality?
( girlinthehole, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:33, Reply)

I was about to say I don't get angry about things I can't affect
but that would be a massive lie.

I get more puzzled by it to be honest. I suspect that it would trouble me more if I did have more direct experience, or those close to me did.

Not particularly admirable, but that's the way it is. I'm terribly self-centred
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:36, Reply)

at least women don't come over here and steal our jobs.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:13, Reply)