Both
I wouldn't just check out my own future, I'd wander around a lot and get some ideas
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 14:32, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

Then come back and write the book. Winner.
What era of history are you studying, and how come you're not zooming off there?
( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 14:36, Reply)

I'm studying 13th century atm
and have decided on Augustan Rome for my thesis. Sadly I have no language talents so though I'd love to go back in the past there I wouldn't be able to communicate
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 15:19, Reply)

I'll get the lads onto a language translator, That'll be worth a few week's lottery wins.


But you could observe, and then get burnt as a witch.
( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 15:24, Reply)

ooh a translator would be handy
but I'd have to crossdress in order to get away with it. Pretend to be a foreign barbarian from Britain
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 15:25, Reply)

that's been made a free citizen like?
I thought Roman women were free to assemble and such - I have no citation for that belief.

Tempting to take a camcorder: could get tricky though.
Hard enough explaining the voice translator.
( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 15:32, Reply)

the problem is
I wouldn't pass for Roman. There obviously were blond Romans with pale skin, but they weren't the average. Roman woman were better off than Greek, but still restricted
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 15:38, Reply)

Fuck it - take an Uzi with you.
Problem sorted.
( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 15:43, Reply)

They were indeed
and were major property owners and hugely important behind the scenes politically too. A cursory glance at the roles of various Emperors' mothers tells you all you need to know....
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 16:46, Reply)

afraid I have to disagree with you Monty
yes individual women could be powerful (and often were- Emperor's mothers are good examples Messalina, and Livia etc) but the average women wasn't (though better than at some times in history)
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:02, Reply)

Hang on, Hang on -
I'm pretty sure Augustin claimed a virgin birth.
( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:04, Reply)

nope
definitely not. Augustus wasn't even a big fan of the whole god cult business, and would never have claimed such a thing. You might be thinking of Jesus

Edit: Oops you were talking about Augustine. I read Augustus. Point still holds though. Virgin births before Christian doctrine became popular, were certainly part of mythology, but after not really
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:06, Reply)

I do that all the time!
You know, I have read afew of those old timers claimed virgin birth, which is probably why it was claimed for Jesus.
Vespasian, I'm sure. Alexander. Caligula - well obviously.
Your area; far from mine.
( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:11, Reply)

Ahh I see where we differ
the Christian virgin birth is different in doctrine because of the general belief that God simply made it be so, whereas other 'pagan' beliefs were pretty sure intercourse had taken place on the God's behalf. Alexander claimed Zeus as father, Caligula of course, Augustus had it bandied about (but doesn't seem to have believed it himself) while not sure on Vespasian who seems eminently too sensible to even try and disseminate that
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:21, Reply)

Wasn't Mary 'visited' by an angel?

( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Tue 27 Apr 2010, 9:06, Reply)

Quintus hominus est
Scintilla femina est
Quintus vis pono penis in Scintilla ut se placere

_{(This is probably all horrendously incorrect and I apologise profusely to anyone who has studied Latin more recently and/or thoroughly than I ever bothered to.)}
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 15:42, Reply)

this was obviously sourced
from the Cambridge Latin Course ;) good old Quintus
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 15:46, Reply)

Most worryingly,
If I remember correcly, Scintilla was the name of his mother...
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 16:33, Reply)

But you have doubts?

( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 16:40, Reply)

sadly
I'm pretty sure Metella was his mother.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:00, Reply)

Caecilius was a fucking homo
(literally, ho ho)

and if I ever see that cunt Grumio in the fucking tablino I shall pop a cap in his ass.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 16:43, Reply)

what did you have against Grumio?
apart from him being a grumpy cunt
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:00, Reply)

He caught him casting a cursory glance at the role of his mother.

( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:03, Reply)

haha
and buggering the slave boy whose name I can't remember

Edit: Monty how was Caecilius a homo?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:07, Reply)

The little lad who swims with the fish? Or am I thinking of Claudius and his carp pond?
All those old geezers in bedsheets look the same.
( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 17:13, Reply)

pono penis pteredactyl
( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 26 Apr 2010, 15:46, Reply)