I like the way you change verbs there
...If you want to take a gap...
...If you have a kid...

These days, 90% of the times you have a kid because you want or because you haven't been careful enough. Why do I have to pay for your errors or luxuries?

I wanted to have kids since I was 24, and here I am, at 30, no babies, because I couldn't afford them.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:19, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

Why do I have to pay for your errors or luxuries?
Because in thirty five years time it will be those errors and luxuries that are supporting you, and whose taxes will be paying for your pension.
(Cave Duck, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:35, Reply)

I am not sure about that
And I hope for your own good that you are not relying on that and are paying for a good private pension.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:38, Reply)

It's not just pensions, who will pay for the NHS that the aging population will need?

(Cave Duck, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:49, Reply)

In that case
See Amberl's answer below.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:53, Reply)

It's a point that needs addressing
but if you read through the discussion, I think you'll find we're addressing more specifically the families who choose to live on welfare and bring their children up in the same way. I doubt they're going to be supporting anyone
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:40, Reply)

Fair point, I was speaking more generally.
However these children do exist. You and I are already "supporting them" by paying for their state education, social services, etc. Also supporting the children must at least give them the chance to become contributing members of society.
(Cave Duck, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:54, Reply)

Yes
And we can't just cut all the benefits overnight, as they childs would be in trouble, rather than the parents. But the system needs to be modified to make sure that parents are trying to improve their and their kids lives.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:55, Reply)