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What is the attraction to Pendulum? I'm not being arsey, I just don't see how they are so popular (though not with DnB fans, it must be said). Surely they are just bad DnB with terrible faux-metal vocals, or do I miss the point?

I know you dig them. I NEED TO KNOW.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 18:45, 2 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

They are the Australian Prodigy
But without the interesting stage show, or relatively groundbreaking music.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 18:48, Reply)

Succinct and to the point, Alphonse.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 21:45, Reply)

Pendulum have done something very clever
They've taken the principle of being jack of all trades, master of none and made it work for them in a way that Jamie Carragher could only dream of. They're not D'n'B any more, thank fuck, they're not a rock band in the conventional sense, they occupy a middle ground that pulls in fans from all directions. They're accessible enough for the Radio 1 idiots to fawn over them, aggressive enough for rock fans to lap them up (especially since that scene has mostly grown very stale) and bleepy enough for anyone with a passing interest in class A drugs to proclaim them as geniuses. Al's comparison with the Prodigy is pretty smart, to be honest. You can forgive them being a few years behind, cos, well, look where they come from.

This is all off the top of my head, by the way. I fucking love Pendulum, I've never really stopped to think about why they're so popular before
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 18:54, Reply)

But that's just it though
The electronic scene don't like them either. And I read Al's description in a negative way. Australia's had a fair amount of good electronic music in the last ten years by the way.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 18:58, Reply)

Decoder Ring were good
But I can't think of anyone else.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:00, Reply)

Fex, Infusion, The Presets, Blastique, Dopamine...
I could only think of five. But Infusion and Dopamine are particularly good. Disconnected Audio is a good record label, and they have a thriving breakbeat scene. Bigger than the UK's scene in 2004-2008, the Plumps get mobbed in Oz.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:07, Reply)

Lee Plump
is an old and dear chum of mine. I first got to know him many years ago when his scratching was even worse than mine at 'Freshly Breaked'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 21:47, Reply)

I'll have to take your word for that
To be honest I was just thinking in type above. To me the reason why people like Pendulum is cos they have fucking good songs, but most of the bands to whom I would attribute that quality have been much less successful than Pendulum whilst the likes of Oasis have sold millions of records, so perhaps its all about taste, or something
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:02, Reply)

The DnB scene particularly loathe Pendulum for what they did.
The Dogs on Acid thing was really funny. None of the DJs I know and play out with would play any Pendulum except for their very early tunes (which were pretty good- it's just a shame they went and pissed on their reputation by doing commercial emo shit with those terrible vocals). They're to serious dance music what Linkin Park are to serious metal. Kind of like The Vengaboys, but without the humour or the self-awareness.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:10, Reply)

Perhaps - and I'm just guessing here - they wanted to sell records
Linkin Park have done alright for themselves. Not a bad template to copy. I see your point, don't get me wrong - no-one likes a sell-out. But to someone like me who doesn't like Drum'n'Bass Pendulum made the right choice. And whilst Linkin Park have long since disappeared into self-parody, their older stuff still gets more people dancing than does Mastodon, musical integrity be damned
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:15, Reply)

I have no time for training bra bands like Linkin Park or Pendulum
I like a lot of metal. In particular Slayer, Kyuss, Sunn O))), early QOTSA, Nailbomb, Ministry etc. But when I see bands like the aforementioned Linkin Park, Evanescence, Green Day and Pendulum doing their thing it leaves me dumbfounded. It's entry-level music for 12 year olds and people who equate success with quality. Having said that, I also despise Faithless, all Hard House, the Tidy Boys, 50 Cent, Cascada and Oasis for the same reason.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:20, Reply)

Faithless were fucking awesome back in the day
their first two albums were great.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:26, Reply)

first two albums were that one song they did was

great alright, I suppose
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:27, Reply)

Bored now
Insult my family and call me mental
(Bazongaloid, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:29, Reply)

Your fianceé is only marrying you
because Sloth from the Goonies rejected her
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:32, Reply)

I never got the whole stadium trance thing.
Surely Faithless are a poor man's trance version of Massive attack?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:29, Reply)

I never like Massive Attack

(Bazongaloid, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:31, Reply)

never attack cock
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:40, Reply)

But again, that's just about taste, isn't it
No-one in their right mind would ever claim that Billie Joe Armstrong was as good a guitarist as Kerry King, but he knows how to write a catchy tune. Or, given their most recent output, he knows how to REwrite a catchy tune and convince people that different lyrics = different song. That's what he's good at and although I understand your thinking it to be shit, I happen to like Green Day. Obviously you prize musicianship and agression above commerical success, and fair play to you for that; we'd be richer as a species if everyone held this view and artist with no discernable talent like the aforementioned Mr Cent and those Manc Beatles-worshipping twats (you missed out Robbie Williams) were never allowed near a recording studio. Honestly I've given up getting angry at bands who make it big for no explicable reason, it's not worth the energy. Maybe I'm just getting old
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:30, Reply)

I'm not angry at them at all
I just find it amusing that people past the age of 13 buy Green Day, Linkin Park and Pendulous records.

You can't be totally cloth-eared though- you like Faith No More. Now that was a band that could mesh metal with electronic and retain humour, warmth, wit, talent and integrity.

Unlike Pendulous.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:37, Reply)

You are a bit angry at them
or you wouldn't be trying to get a rise out of me with your comments about them.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:41, Reply)

Not at all
I know you love them. I can't see the attraction or the point. To me, they just sound like generic poppy rock with some cheesy breakbeats in. Just wanted a different viewpoint. The first tunes of theirs I heard were that Pack of Wolves remix they did for Nightbreed and Another Planet. Great, great tunes. Good, well produced, techy DnB. Then they released In Silico and Granite.

And that hilarious strop on Dogs On Acid. My favourite thing they've done since their early days.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:47, Reply)

I genuinely have no idea about this Dogs on Acid thing
This is my point though. To me most D'n'B sounds incredibly samey and therefore dull. It's not my cup of tea but you love it so fair enough. For you to go after Pendulum and someone who likes them with such venom intimates that their success angers you
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:51, Reply)

Whoah!
Their success doesn't anger me at all dude. Not one jot. It amuses me.

Anyway, did you not challenge fans of 'dance music' to listen to their new album and not proclaim it to be genius? I have heard it, I love electronic music and I find it very, very poor. They just aren't very good at what they do, either their pseudo DnB or their rock stuff.

The DoA thing is here:

www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?s=b1810f0d7b4bbdf89df38a99b0c59766&threadid=536978&perpage=20&pagenumber=8

Mucho lols.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 25 Jun 2010, 19:59, Reply)