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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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that's just ridiculous. First of all as Chompy pointed out, it's not an effective deterrent for those you have to worry about (i.e. the grown up criminals) and second of all it is brutal trampling of human rights. Do you genuinely think people are born criminals? Do you really think we have a limited, set amount of families that generate criminals?
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 16:59, 2 replies, latest was 16 years ago)
that was the equivelant of a couple of "wraps".
But if you allow me to get all Daily Mail for a second, yes I believe a number of criminals are born into a criminal environment. Of course it's not going to stop all crime but I propose that it will help. You think it's the human right of a violent criminal or sex monster to reproduce?
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:03, Reply)
I forgot. Human rights are only given to the people we want to have human rights. That's where I've been going wrong.
Rather than arbitrary and ineffective short term measures, we need to take a long term view of a restructuring of society with an emphasis on tougher terms for criminals, and adequete support for those at most risk of becoming part of the criminal element
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:06, Reply)
But still I stand by the fact that certain criminals in this here society should not have the right to bear children, just like certain criminals should not have the right to live.
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:09, Reply)
OMG u cant tke their rites awy, do u wnt Babby P 2 dye al ovr agin?
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:12, Reply)
surely an outrageous breach of human rights in your book.
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:18, Reply)
u cnt kil peeps loike Rol Maot who r rite leg-ends.
To translate, yes I am indeed against capital punishment. I'm such a hippy liberal me
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:20, Reply)
but the current justice system is extremely flawed. Especially that part of me getting a £70 fine for peeing in the street. I'm more outraged about that than any murderer getting any wrist slapping..
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:26, Reply)
having to avoid trickles of piss on the ground is not one of my favourite activities in high heels
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:32, Reply)
it was in a stagnant hidden corner at the back of a derelict building.
Again that's not the point - someone caught with thousands of pounds worth of class A drugs and equipment got a £100 fine compared with my £70.
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:49, Reply)
However, I do believe that no one has a right to be supported by the government because they have kids. Yes, the government may choose to support some or indeed all, but I hate the sense of entitlement that some people have.
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:06, Reply)
but that's a seperate argument from whether they should be allowed to have kids at all
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:07, Reply)
The problem I have isn't so much that people are having eleventy billion kids, it's that they demand support for them.
(, Thu 15 Jul 2010, 17:09, Reply)
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