I have absolutely no answer to this
Criticising Led Zep is like standing up halfway through a Hitchcock film and loudly proclaiming "I don't get it", and given that the B3ta mandate is famously If you can't say something vicious or sarcastic, don't say anything at all, I'll shut up now.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:57, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

I'm by no means a Led Zep buff
and I actually thought most of the songs I'd ever heard of them were tremendously overrated. Stairway for example does go on a bit!

But if you listen through their albums (at full blast of course) it's very difficult not to every so often go OMG this is amazing. Some songs are a little bit filler though.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)

Have you got Physical Grafitti?
If not, get it, and make sure the socks you're wearing when you listen to it are not your favourites. Because they will be blown off
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:02, Reply)

Yes it is one of the best
Although I think I prefer Houses of the Holy. Same thing applies though, a little bit too much filler sometimes across the Led Zep catalogue but more often than not plenty sock exploding moments..
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)

Really?
I can't be bothered with most of their stuff after Led Zep IV.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:12, Reply)

there are some absolute gems
some of my favourite tunes of theirs are on ones after IV: achilles last stand, nobody's fault but mine, no quarter(!!!)

but on the whole the first 4 are better
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:15, Reply)

And Kashmir of course

( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:22, Reply)

of course

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:32, Reply)

Perhaps I'm just old-fashioned
but I maintain there's more to good rock music than just a good guitar riff. Most of the later Zeppelin does sound like Pagey came up with a riff, Bonham stomped a 4/4 over it and bingo, they had a song. Just to really stir the shit, I prefer John Renbourne's version of Nobody's Fault but Mine.

Had a listen to RS/GSS pt1 last night - really very good, I think if you were to split the different movements into separate tracks you'd have a perfectly serviceable concept album on your hands. I thought the dance/electro section towards the end went on a bit long, and one or two of the choices of guitar tone weren't ideal (a couple of the more scratchy overdrives didn't sit that well, in my humble opinion), but otherwise I thought it was excellent.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:36, Reply)

I agree with this one hundred percent
I always felt like I didn;t get it with Zep as all my friends went spastic for them and I just thought they were good. I love Queen a hundred times more than Zep.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:04, Reply)

Brace yourself for strikethroughs mate

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:05, Reply)

that doesn't get strikethroughs
it gets him put on ignore

zeppelin are fucking boss
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)

They're above average sure but no more than that for me.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:27, Reply)

they are musically fucking brilliant
best rhythm section ever to have existed. Just need to listen to the Lemon Song to hear it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:32, Reply)

I like Lemon Demon
he sings about crayons.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:36, Reply)

Just because something is technically excellent
doesn't make it the best though. Besides music isn't just about technical prowess. I've been playing the drums for about 12 years now and I have more fun jamming with my old friends messing around than when we try and go all intricate and epic. Can't believe how anal people get when talking about music. It's a preference that's all.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:38, Reply)

This actually seems to cause more of a stir than coming out as a Beatles-hater
But I really don't see what's so great about Bonham's drumming.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:40, Reply)

don't get me started on how flipping average the Beatles were.
Bonhams drumming was ace though, not my favourite drummer but in the top 5
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:45, Reply)

This is the bit I fail to understand
As far as I can tell, the only thing that made him different to an average rock drummer was that he hit the drums very hard. There are some impressive fills, some impressive footwork on Good Time Bad Times, but I just find his style far too rigid. I've much more time for jazz-influenced drummers like Mitch Mitchell or Ginger Baker. (Though again, perhaps I'm being old-fashioned and clinging to the ideal that the bassist holds down the time and the drummer plays around it)
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:47, Reply)

Must admit that I'm no drummer
but while you've deemed Led Zep, Radiohead and The Beatles average while singing the praises of Queen, well I find it strange. Seeing as you love Queen so much here's what yer man Roger Taylor thinks about Bonham:

The greatest Rock`n`Roll drummer of all time was John Bonham who did things that nobody had ever even thought possible before with the drum kit. And also the greatest sound out of his drums - they sounded enormous, and just one bass drum. So fast on it that he did more with one bass drum than most people could do with three, if they could manage them. And he had technique to burn and fantastic power and tremendous feel for rock`n`roll
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:52, Reply)

So because I like Queen I must agree with Rog?
Bloody hell do you lot actually read what you're posting before you post it? Best 5 drummers ever (IN MY OPINION)

1. Abe Cunningham
2. Buddy Rich
3. Joey Jordisson
4. John Bonham
5. Aidan Girt
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:32, Reply)

That's not what I said at all. Idiot.
Does it not carry some weight if one of your favourite and most respected drummers rates Bonham as "the greatest rock and roll drummer of all time"? Mean nothing at all? Or should be completely ignored?
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:11, Reply)

Of course it means something but not neccessarily for me.
Hitler might have loved shitting doesn't mean I have to take everything else he says as verbatim. It's an opinion you pedantic bumder so calm the fuck down.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:17, Reply)

I take it Hitler is in one of your favourite bands then?
Or alternatively you're a big fan of the nazis?

I think 99% of things said goes right over your head.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:30, Reply)

I fully understand what you're saying I just think its a very blinkered view.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:57, Reply)