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Saw Sepultura last night
They were most impressive considering that the bassist looks like he'd rather be at home in front of the fire with a packet of Werther's Originals. DJ'd an afterparty at the venue which Derrick Green was good enough to attend. He's lovely. Considerably less terrifying in real life than he looks onstage.

Anyway, this got me to thinking, for some bizarre reason, what's the best guitar riff of all time? It's not by Sepultura. Sorry Derrick.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:47, 145 replies, latest was 16 years ago)
Anything by Status Quo

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:53, Reply)
I'm only replying here because I feel bad
because I replied to Psychochomp's thread down there vvvv and I don't want you to feel left out
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:55, Reply)
Oh you
You're such a sweetheart beneath that bastardly exterior
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:55, Reply)
I'm gay for you, Foxtrot

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:57, Reply)
My place
10pm

and bring a friend
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:58, Reply)
I don't have any friends
and I will jump you in a dark alley at a time of my choosing. Your feminine eye make-up will almost make my raping of your anus slightly less gay.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)
Is it still rape
if the victim is lubed up in anticipation?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)
I like to go in dry
so if you've lubed your bum in preparation I'll just have to skull fuck you in the eye socket
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:03, Reply)
You won't touch the sides
Best go up the nose
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:04, Reply)
Hey Bert I'm hoping we can get past what happened yesterday,
it would be senseless to throw away what we have.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:11, Reply)
OK well whenever you feel like talking, I'll be here.

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:32, Reply)
*yaaaawn*
music thread. I'm going to make a coffee.

I'll just try and annoy you all first by saying that my favourite guitary bit is at the beginning of Plug In Baby.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:55, Reply)
That is an epic intro to a song
Although not even the best Muse intro. Hysteria, woman!
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:56, Reply)
PLUG IN BABY

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:57, Reply)
HYSTERIA
*looks for way to inflate letters somehow*
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:58, Reply)


(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)

damn
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:01, Reply)
I can't get the damn colour right
but that's mostly because I'm using paint.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:05, Reply)
Matt Bellamy so wants to be Thom Yorke
but he just can't get there. Needs to apply pritt-stick to one eye.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:11, Reply)
Matt Bellamy's made it past three albums without making one that's completely unlistenable
which makes him better than Thom Yorke in my book. And he's boffing Goldie Hawn's daughter
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:14, Reply)
It's called pushing the boundries maaaaaaan
technically Yorke did make it past 3 albums before making 1 unlistenable. Although the 4th, Kid A is actually pretty good if you're into that kind of music. He saved his best for last though, In Rainbows is a fucking belter.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:16, Reply)
I'm sorry but that Queen ripoff
that Muse did last was utter balls. I think Radiohead have just kept on getting better. OK Computer was immense as were Kid A and Amnesiac for completely different reasons. Hail and In Rainbows are also top quality too.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:19, Reply)
Have to agree
Radiohead are one of my most favourite bands. I think they are generally frowned upon around these parts though so I don't like to admit it out loud.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:21, Reply)
Radiohead made one good album, The Bends, after that it's been mediocre with the occasional good track
Radiohead bore the shit out of me.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:21, Reply)
If Radiohead bore the shit out of you
it must've been a pretty grim 90's and 00's...
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:26, Reply)
Not really I'll let you in on a little secret
There are more bands out there...........................
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:36, Reply)
All of whom are ever so exciting
like........
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:38, Reply)
Oh come on I'd love to hear it

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:47, Reply)

Radiohead made one good album, The Bends

It amazes me how some people manage to get dressed in the morning. Or are you sitting at your desk at work with your trousers covering your head and one arm?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:27, Reply)
The Bends is my favourite
It's perfect
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:28, Reply)
It amazes me how some plebs take musical preferences personally.
Just because I didn't like it doesn't make me a window licker doest it? Relax dildo features it's just music.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:35, Reply)
I agree some things come down to personal taste
and I've been called a c*** on b3ta for claiming to be a Captain Beefheart fan who doesn't like Trout Mask Replica (bit harsh I thought). But while I don't personally like trilling R'n'B vocals, I can see that Kelly Clarkson has a great voice. Similarly, you might not like OK Computer, Kid A, In Rainbows but you've got to recognise musically they're impressive and varied.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:13, Reply)
yeah I do, I just don't like them. Captain Beefheart is ace!!!!

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:30, Reply)
totally
Listened to Strictly Personal for the first time in ages. Forgot how amazing he is.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:33, Reply)
The last Muse album is unmitigated shit though

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:16, Reply)
totally

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:17, Reply)
Muse's latest single sounds like the 'rawk' version of the Take the High Road theme
From the 90s
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:27, Reply)
yeah I'm seeing them in September and I'm hoping they don't just play all their new shit
it's annoying that they have to make every song an EPIC PIECE now
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:33, Reply)
Muse haven't really changed what they do though
also Matt Bellamy is a massive girly flouncer, I know this from seeing them by chance before they became massive and he stormed off stage straight out of the fire exit at the end of the gig because everyone was there for the support band and left when Muse came on stage. He was sat head in hands by their tour bus being comforted by the two girls that had come to see them.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:36, Reply)
It's the Oasis school of thought
Make 1-2 albums in a particular style. Sell loads of records. Keep ploughing out the same old same old trying to reach the highs of the debuts. End up treading water, getting old, clinging on to credibility and becoming resented.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:41, Reply)
Yeah, but his Dad was in The Tornados
Telstar - now there's a guitar line.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:16, Reply)
strangely enough
I think the best guitar riff ever is the ever so simplistic opening to Airbag by Radiohead.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:15, Reply)
A good shout
Although I have to prefer Just.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:17, Reply)
I played a DJ night at a uni IndieSoc event
That was my closing song and when the slow, lofi US indie fan took over after me she stopped Just during the second long pause near the climax of the song. I was livid, I asked her what she was doing. "I thought the song had ended." Beeeeeee-hatch.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:22, Reply)
Serves you right
You should have ended your set with something that clears the floor and is impossible for her to mix from. Nasenbluten are good for this.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:25, Reply)
when I was in a club
they played Bohemian Raphsody as the last song but turned it off just as the heavy guitar bit kicked in, it was well annoying.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:34, Reply)
Oh, my favourite indie night, Just, a Jim Beam, and swirling round so much I hit a wall
Good times.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:25, Reply)
and yet you continue to claim I kicked you
It's obvious you clumsily fell into my knee.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:28, Reply)
Your knee clumsily fell into my face
To be fair, I'm always falling over.
Even sober. There are often cries of "Wuuuuuuuurrr!" around the library as I feel myself going.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:31, Reply)
maybe your balance juice is fizzy
sometimes mine sloshes and I trip over when I'm standing still.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:35, Reply)
is that an actual medical condition?
I must warn you, I suffer from chronic hypochondria
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:38, Reply)
in that case, yes, definitely.
The way I understand it works is kind of like a spirit level. So if your balance juice is all shaken up that's why you fall over.

I really hope this answer upsets the scientists. Maybe Enzyme will come over and explain it to me in a sexy manner.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:50, Reply)
I like getting explained to also

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:14, Reply)
Hello, pretty
I'm as bored as you with this. How's your day going today?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:02, Reply)
Meh I'm at work so it's not great
although I did get lots of college work done this morning so that makes me feel productive. Spending the first hour at work on b3ta is perhaps slightly less productive.

How are you?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:06, Reply)
Not bad
Feeling very grateful today as I have great friends who are helping me a lot with all this messing around for the wedding. One lovely girl is spending the day today searching for shops and making appointments for us to have a first look at my dress.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:19, Reply)
that's sweet of them, a good wedding team can really take the pressure off
I'm the only bridesmaid of my sister's so it's all on me. I haven't started yet.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:35, Reply)
I think I'll just throw in
Black Dog by Led Zep. Seeing as I've been listening to a fair bit of IV recently...
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:55, Reply)
I have absolutely no answer to this
Criticising Led Zep is like standing up halfway through a Hitchcock film and loudly proclaiming "I don't get it", and given that the B3ta mandate is famously If you can't say something vicious or sarcastic, don't say anything at all, I'll shut up now.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:57, Reply)
I'm by no means a Led Zep buff
and I actually thought most of the songs I'd ever heard of them were tremendously overrated. Stairway for example does go on a bit!

But if you listen through their albums (at full blast of course) it's very difficult not to every so often go OMG this is amazing. Some songs are a little bit filler though.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)
Have you got Physical Grafitti?
If not, get it, and make sure the socks you're wearing when you listen to it are not your favourites. Because they will be blown off
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:02, Reply)
Yes it is one of the best
Although I think I prefer Houses of the Holy. Same thing applies though, a little bit too much filler sometimes across the Led Zep catalogue but more often than not plenty sock exploding moments..
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
Really?
I can't be bothered with most of their stuff after Led Zep IV.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:12, Reply)
there are some absolute gems
some of my favourite tunes of theirs are on ones after IV: achilles last stand, nobody's fault but mine, no quarter(!!!)

but on the whole the first 4 are better
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:15, Reply)
And Kashmir of course

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:22, Reply)
of course

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:32, Reply)
Perhaps I'm just old-fashioned
but I maintain there's more to good rock music than just a good guitar riff. Most of the later Zeppelin does sound like Pagey came up with a riff, Bonham stomped a 4/4 over it and bingo, they had a song. Just to really stir the shit, I prefer John Renbourne's version of Nobody's Fault but Mine.

Had a listen to RS/GSS pt1 last night - really very good, I think if you were to split the different movements into separate tracks you'd have a perfectly serviceable concept album on your hands. I thought the dance/electro section towards the end went on a bit long, and one or two of the choices of guitar tone weren't ideal (a couple of the more scratchy overdrives didn't sit that well, in my humble opinion), but otherwise I thought it was excellent.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:36, Reply)
I agree with this one hundred percent
I always felt like I didn;t get it with Zep as all my friends went spastic for them and I just thought they were good. I love Queen a hundred times more than Zep.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:04, Reply)
Brace yourself for strikethroughs mate

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:05, Reply)
that doesn't get strikethroughs
it gets him put on ignore

zeppelin are fucking boss
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
They're above average sure but no more than that for me.

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:27, Reply)
they are musically fucking brilliant
best rhythm section ever to have existed. Just need to listen to the Lemon Song to hear it.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:32, Reply)
I like Lemon Demon
he sings about crayons.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:36, Reply)
Just because something is technically excellent
doesn't make it the best though. Besides music isn't just about technical prowess. I've been playing the drums for about 12 years now and I have more fun jamming with my old friends messing around than when we try and go all intricate and epic. Can't believe how anal people get when talking about music. It's a preference that's all.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:38, Reply)
This actually seems to cause more of a stir than coming out as a Beatles-hater
But I really don't see what's so great about Bonham's drumming.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:40, Reply)
don't get me started on how flipping average the Beatles were.
Bonhams drumming was ace though, not my favourite drummer but in the top 5
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:45, Reply)
This is the bit I fail to understand
As far as I can tell, the only thing that made him different to an average rock drummer was that he hit the drums very hard. There are some impressive fills, some impressive footwork on Good Time Bad Times, but I just find his style far too rigid. I've much more time for jazz-influenced drummers like Mitch Mitchell or Ginger Baker. (Though again, perhaps I'm being old-fashioned and clinging to the ideal that the bassist holds down the time and the drummer plays around it)
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:47, Reply)
Must admit that I'm no drummer
but while you've deemed Led Zep, Radiohead and The Beatles average while singing the praises of Queen, well I find it strange. Seeing as you love Queen so much here's what yer man Roger Taylor thinks about Bonham:

The greatest Rock`n`Roll drummer of all time was John Bonham who did things that nobody had ever even thought possible before with the drum kit. And also the greatest sound out of his drums - they sounded enormous, and just one bass drum. So fast on it that he did more with one bass drum than most people could do with three, if they could manage them. And he had technique to burn and fantastic power and tremendous feel for rock`n`roll
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:52, Reply)
So because I like Queen I must agree with Rog?
Bloody hell do you lot actually read what you're posting before you post it? Best 5 drummers ever (IN MY OPINION)

1. Abe Cunningham
2. Buddy Rich
3. Joey Jordisson
4. John Bonham
5. Aidan Girt
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:32, Reply)
That's not what I said at all. Idiot.
Does it not carry some weight if one of your favourite and most respected drummers rates Bonham as "the greatest rock and roll drummer of all time"? Mean nothing at all? Or should be completely ignored?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:11, Reply)
Of course it means something but not neccessarily for me.
Hitler might have loved shitting doesn't mean I have to take everything else he says as verbatim. It's an opinion you pedantic bumder so calm the fuck down.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:17, Reply)
I take it Hitler is in one of your favourite bands then?
Or alternatively you're a big fan of the nazis?

I think 99% of things said goes right over your head.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:30, Reply)
I fully understand what you're saying I just think its a very blinkered view.

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:57, Reply)
I was going to say that.

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:12, Reply)
Spastics seldom differ
or whatever the phrase is. We should hook up.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:23, Reply)
Touch my leg.

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:25, Reply)
I have gazzed you the innards of my foreskin
please reply.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:27, Reply)
I have gazzed you my innards
please send help.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:31, Reply)
Voodoo Child

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:56, Reply)
I saw that

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:57, Reply)
nothing to see here
move along
move along
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:25, Reply)
I'm now thinking of zombie chilli
undead noms
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:37, Reply)
They Don't Sleep -Godspeed you black emperor or Iron Man

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:59, Reply)
You shouldn't delete your threads so often
Specially when you have people having conversations on them.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:04, Reply)
true dat
it's straight up ignant dawg.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:08, Reply)
I still don't know the rules. I will repost it in a while and leave it to be commented on or ignored.
woof woof
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
Thread deletion
Is a b3ta cardinal sin.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
That's the best time to delete a post
everyone gets very upset, it's funny.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:10, Reply)
seconded

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:13, Reply)
Don't think it's the best, but it is awesome
Pantera - Cowboys from Hell
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)
That it is
I'm going with Mouth For War as best Pantera riff though
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:01, Reply)
Sorry, but I think you've mis-spelled the word
'Walk'
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:04, Reply)
I got bored of 'Walk'
after it was played endlessly in every rock club I went to from '98 to 2005.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
As a metal DJ during and since this timeframe
I am thoroughly fed up of requests for Walk, undeniably awesome although it clearly is. See also; Killing in the Name
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:12, Reply)
Yep
Also, at the Krazy House in Liverpool every week the DJ would play 'Sad But True', mixed into 'American Badass' (Kid Rock...), then back into SBT. Lazy DJing at it's finest...
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:14, Reply)
It's not my fault Dimebag Darrell is dead
and I preferred five minutes alone anyway
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:25, Reply)
a DJ at a bar I used to go to
made a mix of the Pussycat Dolls' doncha wish your girlfriend was hot like me and the theme from Thomas the Tank Engine. It goes really well!
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:38, Reply)
Music again :(
Oh, well... I think the best guitarrist ever is Paco de Lucía, but Silvio Rodríguez doesn't do it badly either.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:02, Reply)
I likes Paco de Lucía
My family love him
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:07, Reply)
I get goose bumps listening to him
and really have to stop myself weeping. I think he's brilliant. I wish I could play half as well as he does.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:08, Reply)
if you can play a 5th as well as him you're good!

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
No, I can't
I wish I could.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:20, Reply)
Haha!
Dickhead deleted his thread! If you can't compete with Darth Bloody Foxtrot, what chance have you got?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:02, Reply)
Why did he do that?
I had just commented and everything.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:03, Reply)
I don't think he understands the social protocol of posting on a messageboard
either that, or it's Psychochomp trying to throw us all off the scent that it is actually him
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:05, Reply)
I don't think he understands either
But only needs some time. He'll get better.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:06, Reply)
I don't like it when theres more than one thread going that quickly
I can repost it later. Besides I liked Darth's thread. Aber managed to get a copy of inception from my friend last night so gonna watch it again tonight to try and de confuse myself!
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:06, Reply)
Oh, good
Let me know if you get to a conclusion. I like my ending, though, although in my ending it needs a second part.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:07, Reply)
Ah fuck
I feel a bit bad now. Cheers Bob
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:03, Reply)
Cliffs Of Dover by Eric Johnson is pretty magnificent
But I think I'm going to have to go with Pantera - Walk
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:08, Reply)
Eifel 65 - Blue

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:13, Reply)
Something by Girls against Boys.

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:24, Reply)
Kyuss - Demon Cleaner.

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:27, Reply)
that reminds me of the Venga Boys
I think it was on the same Now album. And Mambo No 5.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:39, Reply)
Lamb of God - Redneck
The song is pretty good, but the riff is just bloody brilliant.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:14, Reply)
Drag Racer - Doug Wood Band

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:16, Reply)
Also: Gojira - Backbone
Fucking EPIC tune.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:17, Reply)
ditto 'flying whales'
and 'toxic garbage island' :D
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:41, Reply)
If I can cheekily pick a *bass* guitar riff
Trick of the Light, by The Who

If not, one of Pictures of Home by Deep Purple, Master of the Universe by Hawkwind or, actually a surprisingly strong contender: Smokestack Lightning by Howlin' Wolf.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:18, Reply)
The Who depress me
I love Quadrophenia, but I prefer Dimples and Louie Louie to The Who's actual stuff. Some of it works, but mostly it makes my soul grow dim.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:20, Reply)
Really?
Admittedly Quadrophenia has some of their more depressing songs on it, but The Who have never been a band I've thought of as particularly gloomy - angry and a bit loud, but not depressing.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:39, Reply)
Yeah
nothing depressing to them. Although the slower type songs are a pain in the arse - I don't think Daltry's voice is that suited to the sentimental songs. I prefer the hard-rocking early albums type My Generation or Substitute.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:03, Reply)
I like a lot of Offsprings guitar bits.
Like Gonna go far kid Kid...... DUHN DUAH Show me how to lie DUAN DUAH you're getting better every time DUAH DUAH Turning all against the one DUAN DUAH is it awful hard to teach? DUAH DUAH
Want you bad.....Duh, dadah, duh, duh cho'cho'cho'cho', If you could only read my mind, you'll know that things between us, ain't right.
The Kid's Ain't All Right.......[can't really do the guitar bit in words on this one].
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:22, Reply)
MY favorite base is the intro to Time Is Running Out by Muse.

(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:24, Reply)
Davidian
Machine Head. Now that's an opening riff!
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:33, Reply)
Awesome riff
but not even the best on that album. The riff from Old is absolutely seismic
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:00, Reply)
or Block
I'm a sucker for a 7/4 time signature [musicgeek]
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:04, Reply)

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