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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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They were most impressive considering that the bassist looks like he'd rather be at home in front of the fire with a packet of Werther's Originals. DJ'd an afterparty at the venue which Derrick Green was good enough to attend. He's lovely. Considerably less terrifying in real life than he looks onstage.
Anyway, this got me to thinking, for some bizarre reason, what's the best guitar riff of all time? It's not by Sepultura. Sorry Derrick.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:47, 145 replies, latest was 16 years ago)
because I replied to Psychochomp's thread down there vvvv and I don't want you to feel left out
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:55, Reply)
and I will jump you in a dark alley at a time of my choosing. Your feminine eye make-up will almost make my raping of your anus slightly less gay.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)
so if you've lubed your bum in preparation I'll just have to skull fuck you in the eye socket
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:03, Reply)
it would be senseless to throw away what we have.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:11, Reply)
music thread. I'm going to make a coffee.
I'll just try and annoy you all first by saying that my favourite guitary bit is at the beginning of Plug In Baby.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:55, Reply)
Although not even the best Muse intro. Hysteria, woman!
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:56, Reply)
but that's mostly because I'm using paint.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:05, Reply)
but he just can't get there. Needs to apply pritt-stick to one eye.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:11, Reply)
which makes him better than Thom Yorke in my book. And he's boffing Goldie Hawn's daughter
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:14, Reply)
technically Yorke did make it past 3 albums before making 1 unlistenable. Although the 4th, Kid A is actually pretty good if you're into that kind of music. He saved his best for last though, In Rainbows is a fucking belter.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:16, Reply)
that Muse did last was utter balls. I think Radiohead have just kept on getting better. OK Computer was immense as were Kid A and Amnesiac for completely different reasons. Hail and In Rainbows are also top quality too.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:19, Reply)
Radiohead are one of my most favourite bands. I think they are generally frowned upon around these parts though so I don't like to admit it out loud.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:21, Reply)
Radiohead bore the shit out of me.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:21, Reply)
it must've been a pretty grim 90's and 00's...
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:26, Reply)
There are more bands out there...........................
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:36, Reply)
Radiohead made one good album, The Bends
It amazes me how some people manage to get dressed in the morning. Or are you sitting at your desk at work with your trousers covering your head and one arm?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:27, Reply)
Just because I didn't like it doesn't make me a window licker doest it? Relax dildo features it's just music.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:35, Reply)
and I've been called a c*** on b3ta for claiming to be a Captain Beefheart fan who doesn't like Trout Mask Replica (bit harsh I thought). But while I don't personally like trilling R'n'B vocals, I can see that Kelly Clarkson has a great voice. Similarly, you might not like OK Computer, Kid A, In Rainbows but you've got to recognise musically they're impressive and varied.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:13, Reply)
Listened to Strictly Personal for the first time in ages. Forgot how amazing he is.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:33, Reply)
From the 90s
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:27, Reply)
it's annoying that they have to make every song an EPIC PIECE now
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:33, Reply)
also Matt Bellamy is a massive girly flouncer, I know this from seeing them by chance before they became massive and he stormed off stage straight out of the fire exit at the end of the gig because everyone was there for the support band and left when Muse came on stage. He was sat head in hands by their tour bus being comforted by the two girls that had come to see them.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:36, Reply)
Make 1-2 albums in a particular style. Sell loads of records. Keep ploughing out the same old same old trying to reach the highs of the debuts. End up treading water, getting old, clinging on to credibility and becoming resented.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:41, Reply)
Telstar - now there's a guitar line.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:16, Reply)
I think the best guitar riff ever is the ever so simplistic opening to Airbag by Radiohead.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:15, Reply)
That was my closing song and when the slow, lofi US indie fan took over after me she stopped Just during the second long pause near the climax of the song. I was livid, I asked her what she was doing. "I thought the song had ended." Beeeeeee-hatch.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:22, Reply)
You should have ended your set with something that clears the floor and is impossible for her to mix from. Nasenbluten are good for this.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:25, Reply)
they played Bohemian Raphsody as the last song but turned it off just as the heavy guitar bit kicked in, it was well annoying.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:34, Reply)
Good times.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:25, Reply)
It's obvious you clumsily fell into my knee.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:28, Reply)
To be fair, I'm always falling over.
Even sober. There are often cries of "Wuuuuuuuurrr!" around the library as I feel myself going.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:31, Reply)
sometimes mine sloshes and I trip over when I'm standing still.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:35, Reply)
I must warn you, I suffer from chronic hypochondria
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:38, Reply)
The way I understand it works is kind of like a spirit level. So if your balance juice is all shaken up that's why you fall over.
I really hope this answer upsets the scientists. Maybe Enzyme will come over and explain it to me in a sexy manner.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:50, Reply)
I'm as bored as you with this. How's your day going today?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:02, Reply)
although I did get lots of college work done this morning so that makes me feel productive. Spending the first hour at work on b3ta is perhaps slightly less productive.
How are you?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:06, Reply)
Feeling very grateful today as I have great friends who are helping me a lot with all this messing around for the wedding. One lovely girl is spending the day today searching for shops and making appointments for us to have a first look at my dress.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:19, Reply)
I'm the only bridesmaid of my sister's so it's all on me. I haven't started yet.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:35, Reply)
Black Dog by Led Zep. Seeing as I've been listening to a fair bit of IV recently...
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:55, Reply)
Criticising Led Zep is like standing up halfway through a Hitchcock film and loudly proclaiming "I don't get it", and given that the B3ta mandate is famously If you can't say something vicious or sarcastic, don't say anything at all, I'll shut up now.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 9:57, Reply)
and I actually thought most of the songs I'd ever heard of them were tremendously overrated. Stairway for example does go on a bit!
But if you listen through their albums (at full blast of course) it's very difficult not to every so often go OMG this is amazing. Some songs are a little bit filler though.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)
If not, get it, and make sure the socks you're wearing when you listen to it are not your favourites. Because they will be blown off
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:02, Reply)
Although I think I prefer Houses of the Holy. Same thing applies though, a little bit too much filler sometimes across the Led Zep catalogue but more often than not plenty sock exploding moments..
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
I can't be bothered with most of their stuff after Led Zep IV.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:12, Reply)
some of my favourite tunes of theirs are on ones after IV: achilles last stand, nobody's fault but mine, no quarter(!!!)
but on the whole the first 4 are better
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:15, Reply)
but I maintain there's more to good rock music than just a good guitar riff. Most of the later Zeppelin does sound like Pagey came up with a riff, Bonham stomped a 4/4 over it and bingo, they had a song. Just to really stir the shit, I prefer John Renbourne's version of Nobody's Fault but Mine.
Had a listen to RS/GSS pt1 last night - really very good, I think if you were to split the different movements into separate tracks you'd have a perfectly serviceable concept album on your hands. I thought the dance/electro section towards the end went on a bit long, and one or two of the choices of guitar tone weren't ideal (a couple of the more scratchy overdrives didn't sit that well, in my humble opinion), but otherwise I thought it was excellent.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:36, Reply)
I always felt like I didn;t get it with Zep as all my friends went spastic for them and I just thought they were good. I love Queen a hundred times more than Zep.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:04, Reply)
it gets him put on ignore
zeppelin are fucking boss
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
best rhythm section ever to have existed. Just need to listen to the Lemon Song to hear it.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:32, Reply)
doesn't make it the best though. Besides music isn't just about technical prowess. I've been playing the drums for about 12 years now and I have more fun jamming with my old friends messing around than when we try and go all intricate and epic. Can't believe how anal people get when talking about music. It's a preference that's all.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:38, Reply)
But I really don't see what's so great about Bonham's drumming.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:40, Reply)
Bonhams drumming was ace though, not my favourite drummer but in the top 5
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:45, Reply)
As far as I can tell, the only thing that made him different to an average rock drummer was that he hit the drums very hard. There are some impressive fills, some impressive footwork on Good Time Bad Times, but I just find his style far too rigid. I've much more time for jazz-influenced drummers like Mitch Mitchell or Ginger Baker. (Though again, perhaps I'm being old-fashioned and clinging to the ideal that the bassist holds down the time and the drummer plays around it)
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:47, Reply)
but while you've deemed Led Zep, Radiohead and The Beatles average while singing the praises of Queen, well I find it strange. Seeing as you love Queen so much here's what yer man Roger Taylor thinks about Bonham:
The greatest Rock`n`Roll drummer of all time was John Bonham who did things that nobody had ever even thought possible before with the drum kit. And also the greatest sound out of his drums - they sounded enormous, and just one bass drum. So fast on it that he did more with one bass drum than most people could do with three, if they could manage them. And he had technique to burn and fantastic power and tremendous feel for rock`n`roll
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:52, Reply)
Bloody hell do you lot actually read what you're posting before you post it? Best 5 drummers ever (IN MY OPINION)
1. Abe Cunningham
2. Buddy Rich
3. Joey Jordisson
4. John Bonham
5. Aidan Girt
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:32, Reply)
Does it not carry some weight if one of your favourite and most respected drummers rates Bonham as "the greatest rock and roll drummer of all time"? Mean nothing at all? Or should be completely ignored?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:11, Reply)
Hitler might have loved shitting doesn't mean I have to take everything else he says as verbatim. It's an opinion you pedantic bumder so calm the fuck down.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:17, Reply)
Or alternatively you're a big fan of the nazis?
I think 99% of things said goes right over your head.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:30, Reply)
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 12:57, Reply)
or whatever the phrase is. We should hook up.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:23, Reply)
Specially when you have people having conversations on them.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:04, Reply)
woof woof
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
everyone gets very upset, it's funny.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:10, Reply)
Pantera - Cowboys from Hell
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)
I'm going with Mouth For War as best Pantera riff though
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:01, Reply)
after it was played endlessly in every rock club I went to from '98 to 2005.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:09, Reply)
I am thoroughly fed up of requests for Walk, undeniably awesome although it clearly is. See also; Killing in the Name
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:12, Reply)
Also, at the Krazy House in Liverpool every week the DJ would play 'Sad But True', mixed into 'American Badass' (Kid Rock...), then back into SBT. Lazy DJing at it's finest...
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:14, Reply)
and I preferred five minutes alone anyway
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:25, Reply)
made a mix of the Pussycat Dolls' doncha wish your girlfriend was hot like me and the theme from Thomas the Tank Engine. It goes really well!
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:38, Reply)
Oh, well... I think the best guitarrist ever is Paco de Lucía, but Silvio Rodríguez doesn't do it badly either.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:02, Reply)
and really have to stop myself weeping. I think he's brilliant. I wish I could play half as well as he does.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:08, Reply)
Dickhead deleted his thread! If you can't compete with Darth Bloody Foxtrot, what chance have you got?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:02, Reply)
either that, or it's Psychochomp trying to throw us all off the scent that it is actually him
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:05, Reply)
But only needs some time. He'll get better.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:06, Reply)
I can repost it later. Besides I liked Darth's thread. Aber managed to get a copy of inception from my friend last night so gonna watch it again tonight to try and de confuse myself!
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:06, Reply)
Let me know if you get to a conclusion. I like my ending, though, although in my ending it needs a second part.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:07, Reply)
But I think I'm going to have to go with Pantera - Walk
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:08, Reply)
I think it was on the same Now album. And Mambo No 5.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:39, Reply)
The song is pretty good, but the riff is just bloody brilliant.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:14, Reply)
Trick of the Light, by The Who
If not, one of Pictures of Home by Deep Purple, Master of the Universe by Hawkwind or, actually a surprisingly strong contender: Smokestack Lightning by Howlin' Wolf.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:18, Reply)
I love Quadrophenia, but I prefer Dimples and Louie Louie to The Who's actual stuff. Some of it works, but mostly it makes my soul grow dim.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:20, Reply)
Admittedly Quadrophenia has some of their more depressing songs on it, but The Who have never been a band I've thought of as particularly gloomy - angry and a bit loud, but not depressing.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:39, Reply)
nothing depressing to them. Although the slower type songs are a pain in the arse - I don't think Daltry's voice is that suited to the sentimental songs. I prefer the hard-rocking early albums type My Generation or Substitute.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:03, Reply)
Like Gonna go far kid Kid...... DUHN DUAH Show me how to lie DUAN DUAH you're getting better every time DUAH DUAH Turning all against the one DUAN DUAH is it awful hard to teach? DUAH DUAH
Want you bad.....Duh, dadah, duh, duh cho'cho'cho'cho', If you could only read my mind, you'll know that things between us, ain't right.
The Kid's Ain't All Right.......[can't really do the guitar bit in words on this one].
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:22, Reply)
but not even the best on that album. The riff from Old is absolutely seismic
(, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 11:00, Reply)
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