I appreciate that you might not like the Smashing Pumpkins
but they are significantly better than an awful lot of bands who have achieved success.

They might not be to your taste, but to say they are that bad is just laughable. They are good musicians, some of their stuff is pretentious, but that's not a crime they alone are guilty of, nor does it mean their music isn't good.

When it comes to rock bands, I tend to judge them on how interesting their stuff is, and how well they pull it off (hence my favourite being Tool). The Pumpkins make interesting music, and they do what they do well.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 12:41, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

Not saying I'm the Pumpkins biggest fan by any means
but I really quite like a bunch of their stuff, and am merely saying that they aren't shit.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 12:42, Reply)

Saying the Pumpkins are pretentious is like saying Barcelona is quite pretty
I will defer to your superior knowledge of musicianship. However, would you not agree that more or less every Smashing Pumpkins song follows this exact sequence...

1. Riff kicks in. Interesting, let's see where they go with this
2. Ooh, these drums are quite tasty. This could be good
3. Billy Corgan starts "singing". And the song is completely ruined.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 12:47, Reply)

well, if you don't like his voice then that explains it
I have a higher tolerance for weird voices than most. See Bigelf.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 12:51, Reply)

I hate GnR for this
Asshole Rose's voice makes me want to rip his nails off.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 12:54, Reply)

Classic case of one man's preposterously overblown ego ruining a band
Fine, write all the music, write all the lyrics, but hire someone vaguely competent to sing them

Although in yet another example of why they're the worst band of all time, Oasis followed the above advice but hired someone totally inept
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 12:54, Reply)

there is that element of it
I like the songs enough to overlook it though.

If U2 still put out good music then I wouldn't mind so much that Bono is a complete and utter cuntbag, but their songs are so fucking awful that it just makes things worse.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:00, Reply)

I'm not putting the boot into U2
which, frankly, is as much as I dare say in this arena
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:01, Reply)

I fucking hate them
Vertigo and Elevation are two of the worst songs I've ever heard

She's Electric by Oasis is a better written song.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:07, Reply)

I like With Or Without You

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:07, Reply)

New Year's Day isn't bad
the only one they've done even remotely recently that isn't awful was that one from that Batman film
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:09, Reply)

I like that song
but there's no getting around the fact that they half-inched most of it from T-Rex' Children of the Revolution
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:13, Reply)

I'm annoyed I missed all this!
Zane Lowe is brilliant and Guns N roses were brilliant and Smashing Pumpkins were OK.

That is all.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:29, Reply)

Absolutely
It is in no way massively derivative and the lyrics are genius

*shakes head*
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:08, Reply)

I know how awful it is
that just sums up how much I hate those two U2 songs
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:08, Reply)

Actually
I think you'll find that they're both the same song.
( Kroney, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 13:41, Reply)