Riding a bike without a helmet is objectionable due to the knock on effects on other peopple should teh rider crash.
It's irresponsible.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:26, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I think you might be nitpicking a bit here

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:27, Reply)

Right. So, when there's third-party harm, that does alter things.
But merely being foolish isn't harmful, and - besides - it's not clear what third-party harm there has been when A shags B. Even if there were some harm, you'd still need a separate argument to show that it's sufficiently great to warrant curbing A and B's liberty.

The point stands that "foolish" per se does not imply "wrong".
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:30, Reply)

I'm in very late here, but
the third party harm is that self-loathing over the whole thing is a good chunk of what's turned Bert into such a deranged wankstain and lead to his treating some of my friends in a frankly appalling manner.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Sun 12 Sep 2010, 12:12, Reply)