no he didn't

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 10:57, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

It was a Simpsons quote
and it was as untrue in this context as it was when Bart said it
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:04, Reply)

I've been saying that since before the Simpsons were around
just because something is in the Simpsons doesn't mean it is a Simpsons quote.

particularly if Monty says it
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:08, Reply)

That's exactly what it means
I also bet you haven't been saying that since you were 6
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:14, Reply)

it's been on british terrestrial tv since about 98
I was definitely saying it before then
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:15, Reply)

Ah, but, for what reason, or under whose influence, did you start saying it?
Just because you hadn't seen it on the Simpsons in, for example, '91 doesn't mean that the friend you heard it from hadn't seen it on Sky

The episode I'm thinking of was broadcast in season 12, if I remember rightly, so this is a totally moot point
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:23, Reply)

pointless argument is pointless

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:29, Reply)

There is an underlying point about how The Simpsons has sublimated itself into the fabric of pop culture to such an extent that lines from it are used by people who claim not to watch it, or even to dislike it
but that's much better illustrated by watching an episode of Family Guy with someone who prefers the Griffins to the Simpsons, and pointing out the number of gags lifted wholesale - sometimes verbatim - from the latter
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:37, Reply)

I tend to avoid such analysis
because I don't care.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:38, Reply)

I don't watch either Family Guy
or the Simpsons. The few episodes I've seen seem to recycle very old jokes a lot
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:38, Reply)

In the case of the Simpsons
if you've seen episodes from the first few series, the jokes are old because the programme is old. In the later series I will admit the wheels came off and they started covering old ground, as far as I can tell their logic was "Family Guy can re-use our jokes so we might as well do so too"
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Fri 24 Sep 2010, 11:44, Reply)