I disagree
not that you need my agreement. They're nice, not awesome
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:33, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

To be honest, you should see the amount of floral in my wardrobe.
I'm wearing paisley at the moment. With houndstooth tights. Didn't bring clothes home with me, and while I've got a wardrobe and chest of drawers full of stuff most of it doesn't fit or go together.

I need to lose 2 1/2 dress sizes to get back into most of hte nice stuff :/
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:35, Reply)

Your clothes are size 6/8 :/ ?
I think I have one floral item, and that's the Wheels & Dollbaby top, which to be frank no-one notices the floral on. Mind you I am no-one to speak fashion wise. I am wearing a massive black jumper and the tattiest jeans in existence
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:38, Reply)

no, 8/10.
Well, they're a range. There are some size 8 things, some 10s, some 12s, some vintage 12s, some vintage 10s, some things that will fit my bottom half but not my tits, NONE that fit my tits and nowhere else, and some truly hideous things I should throw out/customise into niceness.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:41, Reply)

I used to buy stuff 'to slim in to'
some of it I kept for years and carted it all over the damn country. Imagine, then, my shock, disappointment and annoyance, when I discovered I'd slimmed right out of some of the nicest things without ever having worn them.
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:43, Reply)

Ooh, ouch.
I started buying things to slim into when I was about 16, and was horrified when I had to buy size 12 trousers and swore never to buy them. I'm still refusing to buy size 16 clothes, though I'm edging that way... The diet will start soon. Very soon. When I have energy.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:46, Reply)

I was a size 16 for years
I absolutely point blank refused to buy size 18 stuff - absolutely and utterly, I would have worn my clothes to rags rather than buy size 18 stuff (even though at times I was far closer to that than a 16!)
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:51, Reply)

I've got a very skewed body perception
I often think I'm slimmer than I am. It's probably the main reason I walk into doorframes, but then again I go face first in to them as a general rule. If I were happy as a size 12-14, I'd stay this way, but I'd be so much happier as a 10-12 and even more so as an 8-10. I guess, just like getting a first, I'm going to have to work at it.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:55, Reply)

but would you be happier?
Just asking, because I know that although I'd also be happier as a size 10, I'd probably then want to be a size 8
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:58, Reply)

I looked good as a 10. I don't think my frame would suit an 8.
Besides, I might lose my waist.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:10, Reply)

Yeah, I know how you feel
I look now, and have the body now that I always thought I had, and yet I'm 4 stone lighter...
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:58, Reply)

May I ask, how did you manage that?
I think I need to lose 3-4 stone to be around my ideal...
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:08, Reply)

I'd like to lose three stone
the problem is though that I hide fat well. So it probably wouldn't make me look much different unless I lost 4 or 5 stone
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:11, Reply)

Erm, I'm just about to be the most terrible role model ever
but I got a gastric band. I was so utterly fucked off with dieting and exercising and it doing precisely fuck all. It worked though - and now I don't have problems with my joints any more I'm training for a half marathon, which I could never have done before.
I'm about a size 12 now, and sometimes I think - fuck, that was drastic, what the hell was I thinking? - but mostly it just feels fucking awesome.

EDIT - I will point out though, that although I have 'cheated' it basically only comes down to portion size: I eat the same stuff, just less of it, and I exercise a lot more because I can exercise a lot more without it crippling me.
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:16, Reply)

Hm
how big do you have to be before they'll let you do that?

And you look smaller than a size 12 to me :S
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:18, Reply)

BMI of 35 or more, private
or BMI of 40-45+ on the NHS. I went private; one of the reasons I'm permaskint. I'm definitely not smaller than a 12 - I'm still a 14 in some shops! Not on the top since my tits have disappeared though...
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:24, Reply)

I'd consider it
if I had the money. Which I don't, so it's all moot.

Well if you'd asked me to guess, I'd have gone for guessing you were a size 10 as it happens
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:26, Reply)

I got a loan
from natwest at something stupidly minimal like 6%. And you really aren't fat enough - you're pretty much the same size as me except you have a considerably larger chest!
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:28, Reply)

I don't look really fat :)
but believe it weight to height I am clinically obese according to the doctor- who is also a bit bewildered!
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:34, Reply)

BMI is an utterly stupid measurement
in many respects, because it doesn't take in to account muscle mass or build or anything. Steve Redgrave's BMI makes him morbidly obese, but he fucking isn't. I'm still squarely in the middle of the 'overweight' category for BMI - but then I did used to be just shy of morbidly obese.
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:36, Reply)

The answer is obvious of course
I could stop eating crisps and actually do some exercise :D
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:40, Reply)

Well, it got results, and while I bet you weren't ugly before, you're smokin' now.
I'm going to join a gym and try eating more healthily. It's the bloody comfort eating that did it for me :/
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:21, Reply)

Hehe, cheers
I know it's dull, but running - if your knees can take the high impact - really does burn a fuckton of calories and tones up your legs something awesome. 30 mins of jogging = 350 calories burned or thereabouts. I also cycle to work, which is 6 miles every day (unless it's pissing down or snowing) which is another 500ish... I basically look at exercise as something which allows me to eat chocolate guilt free.
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:27, Reply)

I might go and run round Burgess Park at home, I think that could be quite pleasant.
It'll also be free rather than COSTLY GYM. Might try walking home one day a week or so (around 3 miles)
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:28, Reply)

I used to fork out for a gym membership I never, ever used
running is free! 3 miles is a good distance, but build up to it if you haven't run for ages. I do that about twice a week.
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:33, Reply)

^this
Although I'm far more of a 14 than a 12, I have more 12 size clothing. It's all 'big 12' stuff like big jumpers/dresses etc
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:57, Reply)

I tend to throw a lot of clothes away
even the nice stuff if I can't pack it at the end of term, or if it's so small I'll never get back into it. Gave a load of my old size 8 dresses to my sister who finds them 'a bit big'
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:45, Reply)

Hmph
your sister needs a slap - in the nicest possible way.
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:47, Reply)

She's 17
really slim, but to be fair to her she works at it very hard. Her rule is never more than one sweet thing in a day and only a bit of it. Mind you I reckon she's hitting the point where it might be a bit worrying
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:50, Reply)

Oof, crikey
she's welcome to it, if that's how harsh she is on herself. 17 is awfully young to be so strict, I hope she's okay :(
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:52, Reply)

I hope so too
I caught her being sick once, but she did promise me she'd never do it again. It's not that, that worries me though, it's that she thinks of herself as fat.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:55, Reply)

I can't throw clothes away. It's a weird compusion
I have some of the nicer bits of material in a bag to "make things out of". I'm going to make a stuffed toy at some point, I think.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:47, Reply)

I can't throw clothes away
if I still want to be able to wear them, regardless of whether they're too big/small. I have a massive, massive pile of clothes in my bedroom that I either need to stick on ebay or give to charity, but eeeeh, it's so much effort..
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:50, Reply)

I should really go through my shit-
there's stuff I don't think I'd ever wear again, like my Mighty Boosh t-shirt from 5 years ago or some of the hideous stuff my mum's bought me...
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:56, Reply)

Snap!
I have a Mighty Boosh t-shirt as well. Fuckers at the stall gave it to me in a medium. As in an indie girl medium, which doesn't even go round my breasts
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:59, Reply)

Mine is small.
That's how skinny I was 15 years ago. And my boyfriend used to call me fat.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:07, Reply)

:S
what an idiot. I've almost never been called fat to my face, and never by a boyfriend
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:09, Reply)

I'm used to it from /talk
and to be honest I am not exactly skin and bones. But I've been called fat when I've been a lot smaller than I am now. God knows what I am now. I actually feel like a Bavarian wrestler sometimes.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:12, Reply)

Stuff my mum buys me goes straight in the pile
I've seen pictures of lepers in Calcutta who have better dress sense than my mum.
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 21:59, Reply)

My mum dresses very well.
I don't dress like my mum or my sister.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:05, Reply)

Neither do I, thank fuck
well, my sister dresses ok I guess. But my mum really doesn't.
(berk, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:10, Reply)

Both of them are quite elegant
Sister is very Chanel-ish. Mother dresses almost exclusively in Toast (the brand not the foodstuff lololo). I wear vintage, highstreet and whatever is lying around on the floor.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 13 Nov 2010, 22:13, Reply)