so you could read read by the age of 18?
the majority of people on here had a state education and they are clearly more articulate (and interesting) than you.

please use your perfect diction to recite the following...

i "h"ave an incredibly "h"igh opinion of myself whereas most people quickly realise i am i complete "t"osser
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Wed 15 Oct 2008, 20:11, 4 replies)

Seconded.
You went to public school because your parents worked hard? So the ninety-three percent of British parents who send their children to a state school don't work? It's interesting that you talk about prejudice and bitterness after sharing your tiresome and outdated cant about adult illiteracy, working-class unemployment and the superiority of an RP accent.

And if you're going to bitch about bitterness, don't bring your ex-fiancee into a completely unrelated story.
(Shinigami, Wed 15 Oct 2008, 21:14, closed)

State education you say?
so that'd be China then?
( buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 0:08, closed)

what a muppet you are
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_school
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 10:11, closed)

What does this
Have to do with anything?

Your insults achieve what? Because you had a state education (would that include the top art college you claim to have studied at?) you are more interesting and articulate than people fortunate enough to go to private schools?

As to your assumption about his opinion of himself, you are simply wrong. Whereas it might be true, at no point can you work that out from his post.

Same for you Shinigami. Where does he say or even begin to imply anything about parents who send their kids to state school not being hard workers?

As he says, this QOTW is bringing out an awful lot of bitterness.

Bring something positive to the table for once spimf - try to break the habit of a lifetime here.
(Spreddum O Grrrr. That's my vicious circle, that is., Thu 16 Oct 2008, 7:08, closed)

actually maybe you prove chads point here...
clearly you cannot read and comprehend adequately

chad suggests that state schools are not able to teach pupils to read adequately - that is a huge insult to the majority of people on this board who attended a state school and choose to send their own kids there

i do not 'claim to have studied at a top art school'...

i did however leave one of the most respected art colleges in the UK with a first class honours degree. (It is however regarded by most as one of the best art colleges in the UK)

while there i was maintained by a grant initially then a student loan (and several bar jobs) - not mummy and daddy

NB his does not in way way mean you are not still a cunt though
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 10:10, closed)

you might want to read the post...
because I stated that my parents sent me to public school because they wanted me to be able to read by 18. I know many people who went to comprehensive schools who are literate. I know a fair few who aren't as well.

Given that the state system is geared to the lowest common denominator and all support systems are for those with sub-normal rather than super-normal abilities, or are for containing criminal behaviour, I personally wouldn't send any child with an IQ over 120 to a state school, because they will be bored witless and will, in all likelihood, start to act out because of it.

The fact is that there is *no* provision for exceptional students at all, as there is no easy living to be had from it, or social workers to employ - your thieving/schizo/violent illiterate with an IQ of 80 provides a nice excuse for lowering the goals set to something easier and will keep four or five social workers in jobs for a decade or so.

I'm not making this up - this is precisely what a respected headmistress of some 30 years experience told my parents when I was a pupil at the school, before she advised them to move me to a public school.

I never said parents who didn't send their kids to public school didn't work, either - I said that there were scumbag parents who laughed at their kids bunking off as they were milking the state for benefits and felt it ok for their kids to do so, as well. These parents lived in council houses and their kids were supposed to attend state schools, but it doesn't then mean all council tenants are scumbags and all those at state school will end up on benefits. You might want to look at your logic skills - maybe drawing a Venn diagram might help you sort out the issues there...?
(Chad, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 11:21, closed)

Well...
ok, let's see - universities are reinstating entrance exams because the "pass at all costs" culture under this government has led to teachers basically doing the exams for students in some case.

Case in point - West Ridings school in Yorkshire. One year it is in danger of being closed because the kids are functionally illiterate. One quick round of NUT meetings and a new head teacher later and the next years' students are rated as the highest acheiving in the district. Now, I may just be being cynical, but that smacks of political engineering, rather than a dramatic leap in academic ability.

Second case, the head of the Cambridge Examination board quits after 20+ years as the GCSE and A level results are climibing towards 100% of students getting all A grades - the whole point of the percentile system is that only the top 10 or so percent get an A grade, regardless, but we now have a system that doesn't dumb down the questions, but does give marks for being vaguely in the right area. So if a kid puts something that has a vague connection with the subject, the markers are encouraged to take it as correct.

I am not saying it's the kids' fault - far from it - I think it is shameful that teachers, unions and the government would fuck up a generation of our youth in order to try and score political points. Before any teachers on here go mental at me, I also understand it is hard to teach a bunch of kids with no interest in learning and who you can't discipline for fear of being beaten up, sacked, or branded a kiddie-fiddler. I don't know the solution, but I do know that things need to change.

So, the upshot is that Universities now view anyone from a comprehensive with suspicion, despite Government policy trying to push them to accept state school kids over those who went private/public. Eton or a similar school might not be full of geniuses, but they will at least have been made to learn something, as the kids will be examined every year and turfed out if they don't reach the standard - it's that simple. By having done away with grammar schools, etc, the state education system no longer makes any allowance for brighter pupils, as all students are now supposed to leave with 27 A levels at A* and above, by government decree.
(Chad, Thu 16 Oct 2008, 11:03, closed)